Talk me out of a Z06 please

Duc_Z09 · 07-22-2016, 07:18 PM

Seems like a lot of sour grapes from the Z crowd. Why's it so hard to admit that a car that costs 2x as much as yours just might be better?

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-22-2016, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Duc_Z09

Seems like a lot of sour grapes from the Z crowd. Why's it so hard to admit that a car that costs 2x as much as yours just might be better?

Better is subjective to the driving experience you're looking for. To me, the more analog a car feels, the better. I don't care if the best performance car is completely electronic. I'd choose the less expensive analog car.

I like for my senses to be connected to the car. I hate muted cars. In my opinion. Adding tons of horses doesn't compensate for the numbness... On the other hand zero torque but great handling is equally annoying. The Z is visceral and balanced. It's unique in feel.

Corvette is Bad ***.... but I love my Z for what it is. Nothing more, nothing less.

Duc_Z09 · 07-22-2016, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Better is subjective to the driving experience you're looking for. To me, the more analog a car feels, the better. I don't care if the best performance car is completely electronic. I'd choose the less expensive analog car.

I like for my senses to be connected to the car. I hate muted cars. In my opinion. Adding tons of horses doesn't compensate for the numbness... On the other hand zero torque but great handling is equally annoying. The Z is visceral and balanced. It's unique in feel.

Corvette is Bad ***.... but I love my Z for what it is. Nothing more, nothing less.

I 100% hear what you're saying (I do own a Ducati instead of a UJM that would have been 2/3 the price and probably slightly faster). However, I'm hearing a bunch of excuses from Z owners along the lines of "ours looks better, ours is cheaper, blah blah blah...." the same Z owners who then turn around and say "what about a GT-R if you want to spend that kind of money?" Talk about a disengaged, unexciting-looking car... and the 'Vette is still cheaper. By a lot. Like you could have a Z06 AND a 370Z for the cost of one of those things these days.

I don't like brand loyalists who are unwilling to admit that their particular car isn't the best thing since sliced bread in every category. It reeks of butthurt.

As a side note the Z has zero torque IMO. I came from Mustangs though so my opinion is skewed. I bought the Z for its looks and handling characteristics more than anything. And for the fact that the nismo (at the time) didn't come in AT so I wouldn't have to worry about people who can't drive owning one.

Jhill · 07-22-2016, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Duc_Z09

I 100% hear what you're saying (I do own a Ducati instead of a UJM that would have been 2/3 the price and probably slightly faster). However, I'm hearing a bunch of excuses from Z owners along the lines of "ours looks better, ours is cheaper, blah blah blah...." the same Z owners who then turn around and say "what about a GT-R if you want to spend that kind of money?" Talk about a disengaged, unexciting-looking car... and the 'Vette is still cheaper. By a lot. Like you could have a Z06 AND a 370Z for the cost of one of those things these days.

I don't like brand loyalists who are unwilling to admit that their particular car isn't the best thing since sliced bread in every category. It reeks of butthurt.

As a side note the Z has zero torque IMO. I came from Mustangs though so my opinion is skewed. I bought the Z for its looks and handling characteristics more than anything. And for the fact that the nismo (at the time) didn't come in AT so I wouldn't have to worry about people who can't drive owning one.

for me it has nothing to do with fan boy ism, this is my first Nissan and so far I love it but I also liked the Acuras I worked on when I worked for them. For me I know GM quality first hand and it's just not that great. I would rather pay the extra $$ up front than deal with it later on the back end. If not owning then sure maybe it would be a cool car to be on loan for a few years and turn it in but I don't lease cars so that's out of the question. Just as an example just wait till the fuel level sensors crap out, which will happen multiple times throughout the life of the vehicle as GM cant make a fuel pump or level sensor to save their life, and guess who is the only manufacture to not have a fuel pump access door? you guessed it Chevy. So now it takes about 15-18hrs labor to drop the tanks which requires dropping the sub frame and trans just to change level sensors. Genius design huh.

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-23-2016, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Duc_Z09

I 100% hear what you're saying (I do own a Ducati instead of a UJM that would have been 2/3 the price and probably slightly faster). However, I'm hearing a bunch of excuses from Z owners along the lines of "ours looks better, ours is cheaper, blah blah blah...." the same Z owners who then turn around and say "what about a GT-R if you want to spend that kind of money?" Talk about a disengaged, unexciting-looking car... and the 'Vette is still cheaper. By a lot. Like you could have a Z06 AND a 370Z for the cost of one of those things these days.

I don't like brand loyalists who are unwilling to admit that their particular car isn't the best thing since sliced bread in every category. It reeks of butthurt.

As a side note the Z has zero torque IMO. I came from Mustangs though so my opinion is skewed. I bought the Z for its looks and handling characteristics more than anything. And for the fact that the nismo (at the time) didn't come in AT so I wouldn't have to worry about people who can't drive owning one.

I hear you and lol on zero torque. On the muscle side I'm a camaro man so mustang torque is a joke to me.

The Z is actually adequately torquey "For Its Intended Purpose". I find it to have a good balance of power & handling.

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