2018 Toyota Supra

ZCanadian · 08-10-2017, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda

By all means, believe everything you read on the internet.

Regardless I find it entertaining that people on a forum devoted to a sports car, who many probably own the said sports car don't understand the concept of a sports car. By all means, fixate on a HP number that someone pulled out of their *** and base conclusions on that.

Seeing the real head and tail lights reveals just how well they have camouflaged it. It is like a supermodel with a burka on...I want to see what is underneath so badly!

Careful what you wish for - just because someone on a website SAID she's a supermodel, doesn't mean you REALLY want to look under that burqa!

OK, go ahead, but I warned you....

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Originally Posted by Stright_Drop

And when the top version comes out and gets all the praise about 335hp I bet they compare it to a base model z34

then proceed to say how "dated" the Z and VQ platform is

Well, if they manage to get 335HP out of a tuned SC or turbo 4 on this one, and the car weighs 500 lbs less than the 370Z, then they may still have something to talk about. I can dream, can't I???

b15 · 08-10-2017, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Stright_Drop

And when the top version comes out and gets all the praise about 335hp I bet they compare it to a base model z34

then proceed to say how "dated" the Z and VQ platform is

I mean, the z34 and VQ are dated....

Still somewhat competitive but ancient by car standards now a days

Nixin · 08-10-2017, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by b15

I mean, the z34 and VQ are dated....

Still somewhat competitive but ancient by car standards now a days

Just because something is newer and more technical doesn't mean it's better than something 'dated'. Best examples are the A-10A and B-52H.

BlackZeda · 08-11-2017, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian

Careful what you wish for - just because someone on a website SAID she's a supermodel, doesn't mean you REALLY want to look under that burqa!

OK, go ahead, but I warned you....

...

Good point! I think it is safe to assume that whatever is under the camo is a toned down, less concepty FT-1 body. But, with that being said, I love the proportions and the fact that there are no +2 seats (it reminds me of another Japanese sports car that we all love). I am not sure what to think about IF they only offer in an automatic, but as already mentioned, if it is a DCT I would be Ok with that if they offer a manual shift paddle mode.

For comparison sake, the M2 has 365HP and 343LbFt and is 3450Lbs and from what I hear is the best M car that is offered currently. If Toyota/BMW can reduce that weight to below 3000Lbs (the 86 is 2754Lbs) that would be fantastic even with "lowly" turbo 335HP.

As far as a hybrid AWD option, the Prius is 3000Lbs even with those heavy batteries. Not a true sports car, but neither is the GTR.

b15 · 08-11-2017, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Nixin

Just because something is newer and more technical doesn't mean it's better than something 'dated'. Best examples are the A-10A and B-52H.

Yes, that's exactly what it means. The Z is based on an old chassis and is powered by an engine that doesn't utilize any of the newest technologies available today. It is certainly dated, by car standards but it is also remains pretty competitive and offers a great driving experience.

UNKNOWN_370 · 08-14-2017, 08:36 PM

https://gearheads.org/2018-toyota-supra-engines-leaked/

So this shyt is getting the normal bimmer engines. Hopefully this car will be 3,000lbs n then it might be something special? Otherwise, it will be a lower slung 3 series.
Whomp whomp whomp whommmp!

RicerX · 08-14-2017, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

https://gearheads.org/2018-toyota-supra-engines-leaked/

So this shyt is getting the normal bimmer engines. Hopefully this car will be 3,000lbs n then it might be something special? Otherwise, it will be a lower slung 3 series.
Whomp whomp whomp whommmp!

Hard top Z4 with a body kit. What a disappointment.

Unless they're keeping some stuff a serious secret, I don't see much of anything enticing here. I've never had high hopes for this car, and this is why. The Japanese carmakers are lacking imagination and courage to do something truly exceptional these days.

carlitos_370z · 08-15-2017, 07:11 AM

What happen with the Japanese Manufacturers of the good old days

Mazda RX-7's, Nissan Silvia, the real Toyota Supra, Nissan Z... we need those days back... Not this sh!t...

Stright_Drop · 08-15-2017, 08:29 AM

This is just gonna be the faster 86 everybody wanted with a lil bit more room with yet another engine from a different company. You can utilize all of the newest technologies available today but realistically speaking the only thing the new Supra sounds like it will have over the Z34 is adjustable dampening and ecu. Not saying its a bad thing but it took Toyota what 4+ years to come up with 335-400hp BMW that looks like a Z34/86?

BlackZeda · 08-15-2017, 09:52 AM

OMG, seriously, do you guys believe everything you read on the internet?

carlitos_370z · 08-15-2017, 10:09 AM

We will see in October at the Tokyo Auto Salon

b15 · 08-15-2017, 10:34 AM

I'll also add that I hope they don't call this a Supra if it has a BMW sourced engine. Just seems wrong.

ZCanadian · 08-15-2017, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by b15

I'll also add that I hope they don't call this a Supra if it has a BMW sourced engine. Just seems wrong.

The Toyota Bratwurst?

b15 · 08-15-2017, 02:38 PM

Ha.

I guess I don't blame Toyota for using the BMW engines. Minimal R&D costs since they have no competitive turbo engines in their stable and BMW has been doing it for years.

But given the wonderfully designed Toyota engines in their recent sport attempts with the LFA and the ISF, RCF, and GSF just disappointing to hear they'll potentially tarnish the Supra legacy by outsourcing the engine. The BMW turbo 6s respond great to tunes, but damn don't call it a supra.

carlitos_370z · 08-15-2017, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by b15

Ha.

I guess I don't blame Toyota for using the BMW engines. Minimal R&D costs since they have no competitive turbo engines in their stable and BMW has been doing it for years.

But given the wonderfully designed Toyota engines in their recent sport attempts with the LFA and the ISF, RCF, and GSF just disappointing to hear they'll potentially tarnish the Supra legacy by outsourcing the engine. The BMW turbo 6s respond great to tunes, but damn don't call it a supra.

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carlitos_370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 7,157 Drives: 13 Nissan 370Z SP M6 Rep Power: 7586	What happen with the Japanese Manufacturers of the good old days Mazda RX-7's, Nissan Silvia, the real Toyota Supra, Nissan Z... we need those days back... Not this sh!t... Stright_Drop likes this.

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Stright_Drop Base Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Jacksonville,Fl Posts: 121 Drives: 2014 Nismo 6speed Rep Power: 13	This is just gonna be the faster 86 everybody wanted with a lil bit more room with yet another engine from a different company. You can utilize all of the newest technologies available today but realistically speaking the only thing the new Supra sounds like it will have over the Z34 is adjustable dampening and ecu. Not saying its a bad thing but it took Toyota what 4+ years to come up with 335-400hp BMW that looks like a Z34/86? carlitos_370z likes this.

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BlackZeda A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 1,109 Drives: 19 Audi TT RS Rep Power: 22	OMG, seriously, do you guys believe everything you read on the internet? carlitos_370z likes this.

08-15-2017, 10:09 AM	#281 (permalink)
carlitos_370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 7,157 Drives: 13 Nissan 370Z SP M6 Rep Power: 7586	We will see in October at the Tokyo Auto Salon BlackZeda likes this.

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b15 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,229 Drives: 4drz Rep Power: 36571	I'll also add that I hope they don't call this a Supra if it has a BMW sourced engine. Just seems wrong. UNKNOWN_370, Stright_Drop, carlitos_370z and 2 others like this.

08-15-2017, 02:38 PM	#284 (permalink)
b15 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,229 Drives: 4drz Rep Power: 36571	Ha. I guess I don't blame Toyota for using the BMW engines. Minimal R&D costs since they have no competitive turbo engines in their stable and BMW has been doing it for years. But given the wonderfully designed Toyota engines in their recent sport attempts with the LFA and the ISF, RCF, and GSF just disappointing to hear they'll potentially tarnish the Supra legacy by outsourcing the engine. The BMW turbo 6s respond great to tunes, but damn don't call it a supra. carlitos_370z likes this.

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