2018 Toyota Supra

carlitos_370z · 02-13-2018, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

3300lbs, 335BHP, 6cyl..............sounds familiar and not very impressive. just saying.

unless all reports so far are wrong then this is just a slightly beefed up FRS/BRZ.

UNKNOWN_370 · 02-14-2018, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

3300lbs, 335BHP, 6cyl..............sounds familiar and not very impressive. just saying.

unless all reports so far are wrong then this is just a slightly beefed up FRS/BRZ.

Hmmm i dunno what to think. I mean its a bimmer engine with toyota tech on it. The 335hp will probably be underrated by 40hp?
3300 is slightly heavy but if they did alfa giulia type engineering with the chassis. This may feels super fast?

On paper stats for this may not be the key.
BMW has had a hard time making a Z4 that can out class a mazda rx or a Z in terms of handling. Thats why Toyota is in the mix.
And toyota just didnt want to build a new powetful engine for their sub premium sports entry. Maybe together they can find the formula? So far the Supra Aero looks sick and may be a contributor to supercar handling... Lets see? Toyota is underwhelming but this may be the turnaround?

FPenvy · 02-14-2018, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Hmmm i dunno what to think. I mean its a bimmer engine with toyota tech on it. The 335hp will probably be underrated by 40hp?
3300 is slightly heavy but if they did alfa giulia type engineering with the chassis. This may feels super fast?

On paper stats for this may not be the key.
BMW has had a hard time making a Z4 that can out class a mazda rx or a Z in terms of handling. Thats why Toyota is in the mix.
And toyota just didnt want to build a new powetful engine for their sub premium sports entry. Maybe together they can find the formula? So far the Supra Aero looks sick and may be a contributor to supercar handling... Lets see? Toyota is underwhelming but this may be the turnaround?

the real question for me is will it look as good as the prototypes, can you make that engine thrown down big power with a few mods, and price.

Chuck33079 · 02-14-2018, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

can you make that engine thrown down big power with a few mods

If they use the same turbo six they use in all the other BMWs it will respond very well to mods. The big question is if you'll be able to reflash the ecu. You can with BMW, not so much with Toyota.

FPenvy · 02-14-2018, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

If they use the same turbo six they use in all the other BMWs it will respond very well to mods. The big question is if you'll be able to reflash the ecu. You can with BMW, not so much with Toyota.

what also worries me is the report that the wheel/tire set up is 225 fronts and 245 rears? like wtf you surrrrrrrreeeeeee this is gonna be a good driving car?

eZg · 02-13-2018, 09:49 AM

article mentioned four diff trim levels.

I'm not familiar with Toyota's marketing......but wondering if they will wait and introduce the highest level later than the others.

I'm not holding my breath after this long but would suck to have to wait even longer.

I'm not a chevy guy at ALL but the C7 vette is all that I like and can afford at this point in time. So this seems like my only hope before I give up and buy some gold nugget jewelry and a stupid vette. (thought about trying to disguise the C7 with some aftermarket front and rear bodywork, but not much available as vette owners appear proud of their brand)

FPenvy · 02-13-2018, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by eZg

article mentioned four diff trim levels.

I'm not familiar with Toyota's marketing......but wondering if they will wait and introduce the highest level later than the others.

I'm not holding my breath after this long but would suck to have to wait even longer.

I'm not a chevy guy at ALL but the C7 vette is all that I like and can afford at this point in time. So this seems like my only hope before I give up and buy some gold nugget jewelry and a stupid vette. (thought about trying to disguise the C7 with some aftermarket front and rear bodywork, but not much available as vette owners appear proud of their brand)

march 3rd 3:45am we will know. that's when the information will be released.

eZg · 02-13-2018, 10:30 AM

but are they likely to release ALL the info?

I guess Lexus did release both the levels of the RC coupe at the same time...

ZCanadian · 02-13-2018, 11:14 AM

Info release is one thing.
When will product be on store shelves? That's the kicker.

The Toyota distribution network is a huge pipeline to fill, and even though they are masters at it you cannot go from auto-show debut (is it still a pre-production concept, or production-ready?) in Geneva to cars on the sales floor at your local Toyota dealership, overnight.

2011 Nismo#91 · 02-13-2018, 11:25 AM

Just a guess but BMW 335HP = N55 motor?

Chuck33079 · 02-14-2018, 12:23 PM

Plus, it's a hell of a lot easier to change wheels than to fix other possible shortcomings.

FPenvy · 02-14-2018, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian

Kind of depends on the weight & distribution.

Give it a chance. Pretty sure it won't be a better driver's car than my 4C, and that is my track setup. Not a big fan of extra tire width without just cause. More unsprung mass, and more rubber to heat up and keep warm.

the 4C is great except that they made it just butt ugly (personal opinion). thankfully Alfa made the Giulia Quadrifoglio. that is just a beautiful car especially for a 4 door lol

also, i a guy who runs 265/305 on his Z

i like my rubber.

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Plus, it's a hell of a lot easier to change wheels than to fix other possible shortcomings.

touche. guess its a wait and see.

at least they're releasing a car unlike nissan....

Zingston · 02-14-2018, 07:24 PM

More details regarding the upcoming Supra:

https://www.carscoops.com/2018/02/to...teased-geneva/

loiro370z · 02-15-2018, 05:44 PM

carlitos_370z · 02-16-2018, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by loiro370z

Daaaamn! If the car looks like that, I want one

02-13-2018, 11:25 AM	#10 (permalink)
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Zingston A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2017 Location: Florida Posts: 4,028 Drives: like it's a rental. Rep Power: 2684370	More details regarding the upcoming Supra: https://www.carscoops.com/2018/02/to...teased-geneva/