2018 Toyota Supra

BlackZeda

It looks like you guys are letting some purported leaks on some 3rd rate auto news sites override your logic and reason.

1) The "news" is BS
2) Toyota could not sell it. I am 90% certain I will buy the new Supra/FT-1 (if that is what it is called), but having a BMW engine is a certain deal-breaker.
3) The 86 has a Toyota engine even though it was co-developed by Subaru. If Toyota were to use another companies engine, then it would be Subaru.
4) Correct me if I am wrong, but Toyota (or Lexus) has never used another manufacturer's engine.

ZCanadian

Although I don't dispute your assertion as to the veracity of these reports, I'm not certain that past practices are entirely indicative of current or future business models. Modern business pressures demand lateral thinking like never before. Certain opportunities might only be realized by forging new partnerships. Some models would never exist without them. Not saying that's a good thing, but it's becoming reality.

Jordo!

I would expect the BWM motor(s) with Toyota part numbers and a few other odds and ends taken from, say, Denso, and (possibly) a Yamaha head. It will have a Toyota ECU, tho'...

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b15

The 86/FRS has a Subaru designed and built engine (FA20). It does use the Toyota DI fuel system but it is not a Toyota engine. In Toyota applications, it carries a Toyota engine code but that doesn't make it Toyota designed engine. The whole architecture of it screams Subaru as it's the EJ replacement.

This Supra would probably be the second Toyota car using a non-Toyota designed engine that I'm aware of.

BlackZeda

Thanks for the correction. The 86 is indeed a rebadged Subaru, but if the "Supra" is a rebadged BMW it better be something special, or they've lost me as a buyer.

ZCanadian

And don't forget the duck tape and baler twine! ;-)

ZCanadian

As promised, the Z4 concept as it appeared at Pebble Beach...

Though frankly, I prefer what's behind it in this shot. ;-)

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carlitos_370z

I like how it looks! now I want to see the Supra in the Tokyo Auto Salon in October

BlackZeda

Loving the size and general shape in these action shots. I will bet that the spoiler is a red herring.

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carlitos_370z

Fck I like this thing more and more looool even with the damn camo! What you guys think about the price.... 370z price range or close to a GTR? I vote is more for a 370z price range based on the supposed leaked details

b15

I think it'll be right in between Z and GTR and in line with the Q60 coupe. Starting price in the 40s going to 60s.

BlackZeda

Well it all depends what it is, but if it is good I would think it would be the same price with decent options as a base BMW M2...$55K.

For this I would want something that looks good, has adequate room in the hatch (like the 370Z), is under 3000lbs and ~360HP and torque.

I don't mind if there is not a manual stick option, just as long as the automatic or DCT has a manual mode.

MaysEffect

The interior looks like a rip off from the Infiniti Essence design.

UNKNOWN_370

Manual lives?

New information says 2019 Toyota Supra will get a manual transmission, turbo V-6 engine

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Jordo!

My interpretation of "co-developed" is that the Supra will probably have a BMW sourced block, Toyota/Denso fueling and tune, and if using the same turbo as the Z4, a BMW head.

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