2017 Corvette Grand Sport!!

b1adesofcha0s · 02-24-2017, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Redglare

My experience about the c7; it's just too much of a car for where I live right now. Backroad carving is NOT what it was built for, sure it does it well but the Z is way more at home, maybe it has to do with dimensions but I feel like the c7 is built for states with long flat wide roads, I can't imaging how out of place a c7 would be at the dragon.

Man you have noooooo idea how wrong you are about that. I took my C7 to ZDayZ last year and my 370Z to ZDayZ the year before that. The C7 absolutely obliterates the Z in every way. It was more balanced/neutral in the turns on the Dragon where the Z would have a bit more understeer. Had much better brakes on the C7, though my Z only had base brakes. The magnetic ride suspension was fantastic on all the turns, elevation changes, and some of the rougher road surfaces. Didn't have any cooling issues like I did with the Z. All of this doesn't even take into account the glorious sound of the V8 roaring up the mountains with the Targa top off. Really hard to beat that.

It did take a little bit of time to adjust to the size of the C7 compared to the Z, but I got used to it in like a week. Once you get past that initial phase, it doesn't actually feel so big when you're hitting the back roads spiritedly. FYI I have a Z51 with the magnetic ride option. Had the same PSS tires on both cars, but obvioiusly in different sizes.

I don't know exactly where or how you drove a C7, but having owned both cars I would say you're absolutely wrong about the C7. I enjoy it more on backroads than I did the Z and it has no issues with tight backroads. I was able to open it up plenty on the dragon. It built so much more confidence in my driving that I consciously had to hold myself back because I was afraid to go any faster.

UNKNOWN_370 · 02-24-2017, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Man you have noooooo idea how wrong you are about that. I took my C7 to ZDayZ last year and my 370Z to ZDayZ the year before that. The C7 absolutely obliterates the Z in every way. It was more balanced/neutral in the turns on the Dragon where the Z would have a bit more understeer. Had much better brakes on the C7, though my Z only had base brakes. The magnetic ride suspension was fantastic on all the turns, elevation changes, and some of the rougher road surfaces. Didn't have any cooling issues like I did with the Z. All of this doesn't even take into account the glorious sound of the V8 roaring up the mountains with the Targa top off. Really hard to beat that.

It did take a little bit of time to adjust to the size of the C7 compared to the Z, but I got used to it in like a week. Once you get past that initial phase, it doesn't actually feel so big when you're hitting the back roads spiritedly. FYI I have a Z51 with the magnetic ride option. Had the same PSS tires on both cars, but obvioiusly in different sizes.

I don't know exactly where or how you drove a C7, but having owned both cars I would say you're absolutely wrong about the C7. I enjoy it more on backroads than I did the Z and it has no issues with tight backroads. I was able to open it up plenty on the dragon. It built so much more confidence in my driving that I consciously had to hold myself back because I was afraid to go any faster.

I have koni shocks swift springs eibach sways a custom alignment a straight pipes, a Nismo muffler and an oil cooler. My mods are around $2,200 and fairly simple. Every thing you said about the Z I fixed. Dimensionally it's a better car. Stock performance the vette is a much better car. I drove a GS and it was AMAZING. But it STILL wasn't that kind of amazing that can pull me out of a Z. It's really hard finding a car at a reasonable price that can give you everything you're looking for.

I don't think it's fair to say HES WRONG. He just has a different opinion. As an owner you have accustomed yourself. He's based on a first impression. I can see how his first impression left him feeling that way though my experience was way more positive.

Better isn't always better. I still felt more connected to my Z on my first time driving a Z than my first time driving a vette. I never had to get used to a Z from the first ride.

When you desire something really bad, you adjust. When you don't get an awesome first impression. You don't.

You gotta get over your mustang mentality bruh.

Zoren 370 · 02-24-2017, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Man you have noooooo idea how wrong you are about that. I took my C7 to ZDayZ last year and my 370Z to ZDayZ the year before that. The C7 absolutely obliterates the Z in every way. It was more balanced/neutral in the turns on the Dragon where the Z would have a bit more understeer. Had much better brakes on the C7, though my Z only had base brakes. The magnetic ride suspension was fantastic on all the turns, elevation changes, and some of the rougher road surfaces. Didn't have any cooling issues like I did with the Z. All of this doesn't even take into account the glorious sound of the V8 roaring up the mountains with the Targa top off. Really hard to beat that.

It did take a little bit of time to adjust to the size of the C7 compared to the Z, but I got used to it in like a week. Once you get past that initial phase, it doesn't actually feel so big when you're hitting the back roads spiritedly. FYI I have a Z51 with the magnetic ride option. Had the same PSS tires on both cars, but obvioiusly in different sizes.

I don't know exactly where or how you drove a C7, but having owned both cars I would say you're absolutely wrong about the C7. I enjoy it more on backroads than I did the Z and it has no issues with tight backroads. I was able to open it up plenty on the dragon. It built so much more confidence in my driving that I consciously had to hold myself back because I was afraid to go any faster.

Oh my goodness you make me want to drive and bring my C7 and test it at the dragon. Having the C7 just for a few months and only driving it for 300miles. I think I need to learn and respect the car more as it's really a fast car and would demand a lot of driving skill to drive like a mad man at the dragon.
The corvette packs double the power of my Z with less the weight so go figure how the vett does when you drive it. It's a bullet with 4 wheels.

Longer wheelbase makes it less nimble as the Z. But once I get more driving time with my vette, I'm sure I'll be able to control this beast.

The C7 vette is certainly a different type of car, I love my 370 but the vette hits the sweet spot like a G spot. Ask a satisfied girl and you know what I mean.

Kudos.

UNKNOWN_370 · 02-24-2017, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoren 370

Oh my goodness you make me want to drive and bring my C7 and test it at the dragon. Having the C7 just for a few months and only driving it for 300miles. I think I need to learn and respect the car more as it's really a fast car and would demand a lot of driving skill to drive like a mad man at the dragon.
The corvette packs double the power of my Z with less the weight so go figure how the vett does when you drive it. It's a bullet with 4 wheels.

Longer wheelbase makes it less nimble as the Z. But once I get more driving time with my vette, I'm sure I'll be able to control this beast.

The C7 vette is certainly a different type of car, I love my 370 but the vette hits the sweet spot like a G spot. Ask a satisfied girl and you know what I mean.

Kudos.

Well said sir.

FPenvy · 02-24-2017, 04:17 PM

Of course a Z51 vette is better than a base model Z Einstein lol

Hotrodz · 02-24-2017, 05:41 PM

Lol, before I bought my Z in 2012 I test drove brand new mustang and it was just okay. I then test drove new base model z and was like...this is not much better and I almost gave up. I test drove my Nismo and the rest is history. It either fits or it doesn't!

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SINISTER · 02-24-2017, 06:46 PM

Owned a C6 not into the new look..they look like something a comic book hero would drive. Plus too many issues with the engine. A good ole fashion LS3 engine is more reliable or even better a Z...We have the most bang for the buck: Reliability+performance +super good looks+ Japanese build+ Amazing handling + $cost = Z
Corvette only has looks + power/performance .. So IMOP Z > Vette

UNKNOWN_370 · 02-24-2017, 07:08 PM

The vette has an indisputable performance edge. GM V8 drama is second to none in the 50k or less range. If you don't mind the artificial feel on the steering you really get an amazing package.

When I'm just driving around everyday. I really love how the Z feels. To me... the next logical step is a Porsche. There's nothing else out there except for Porsche that's a direct upgrade to the feel of the Z in dimensions and drive style as a Z. My only issue is, I'm not crazy about Porsche styling unless it's the GTRS Turbo and the special manual one... I just went blank.

Going into a vette is changing your whole driving philosophy. The vette is FIRST CLASS though. Don't get it twisted.

Redglare · 02-25-2017, 07:57 AM

A good analogy of my experience; if you put the new miata and our Z on a go-kart track, the Z won't be able to shine.
I had the same experience with a base c7, I drove both cars back to back on some twisty TN roads, analogous to the dragon, but with tighter curves and less room to really open it up.
No one is disputing the c7 is a faster car in the proper environment, all I am saying is from my limited test drive (maybe 50-60 miles max) it felt way too big and did not feel like the price tag was justified vs my sport package Z.

If I was on road atlanta or buttonwillow and had more seat time I am sure my experience would have been different, but I still stand by my opinion its too much of a car for the kind of driving I am doing, maybe if I ever move back to FL I would definitely consider it again.

I will admit when I got on the interstate the c7 made a lot more sense lol, its a highway bomber, we are talking b52 vs A10.

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Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	Lol, before I bought my Z in 2012 I test drove brand new mustang and it was just okay. I then test drove new base model z and was like...this is not much better and I almost gave up. I test drove my Nismo and the rest is history. It either fits or it doesn't! Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk UNKNOWN_370 likes this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

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SINISTER Track Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Earth's Toilet: Houston Posts: 552 Drives: 2013 370z NISMO Rep Power: 2154	Owned a C6 not into the new look..they look like something a comic book hero would drive. Plus too many issues with the engine. A good ole fashion LS3 engine is more reliable or even better a Z...We have the most bang for the buck: Reliability+performance +super good looks+ Japanese build+ Amazing handling + $cost = Z Corvette only has looks + power/performance .. So IMOP Z > Vette Last edited by SINISTER; 02-24-2017 at 06:49 PM.

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UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	The vette has an indisputable performance edge. GM V8 drama is second to none in the 50k or less range. If you don't mind the artificial feel on the steering you really get an amazing package. When I'm just driving around everyday. I really love how the Z feels. To me... the next logical step is a Porsche. There's nothing else out there except for Porsche that's a direct upgrade to the feel of the Z in dimensions and drive style as a Z. My only issue is, I'm not crazy about Porsche styling unless it's the GTRS Turbo and the special manual one... I just went blank. Going into a vette is changing your whole driving philosophy. The vette is FIRST CLASS though. Don't get it twisted. Zoren 370 and ZCanadian like this. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

02-25-2017, 07:57 AM	#9 (permalink)
Redglare Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: FL Posts: 387 Drives: C172 Skyhawk GIII Rep Power: 175	A good analogy of my experience; if you put the new miata and our Z on a go-kart track, the Z won't be able to shine. I had the same experience with a base c7, I drove both cars back to back on some twisty TN roads, analogous to the dragon, but with tighter curves and less room to really open it up. No one is disputing the c7 is a faster car in the proper environment, all I am saying is from my limited test drive (maybe 50-60 miles max) it felt way too big and did not feel like the price tag was justified vs my sport package Z. If I was on road atlanta or buttonwillow and had more seat time I am sure my experience would have been different, but I still stand by my opinion its too much of a car for the kind of driving I am doing, maybe if I ever move back to FL I would definitely consider it again. I will admit when I got on the interstate the c7 made a lot more sense lol, its a highway bomber, we are talking b52 vs A10. Zoren 370 likes this. Last edited by Redglare; 02-25-2017 at 08:01 AM.

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