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BlackZeda 10-14-2015 08:03 AM

Bmw m2
 
Offer it up with the XDrive option and you may have me as a buyer:

BMW M2

m4a1mustang 10-14-2015 08:16 AM

Very tempting. Hopefully they are more available than the 1M. Love the size of the 2 series over the 4. I think it looks really good and at $51k should be a pretty good value. Only a little bit more than a freaking NISMO... c'mon Nissan. :bowrofl:

FPenvy 10-14-2015 08:29 AM

i'll take RWD for the slides :yum:

M4: it starts at 51.....you and I both know with a couple basic options it'll be 60k in the blink of the eye with BMW prices lol

decent equipment it'll be 60-65k i'd say but in the end you'll be in corvette price range with slightly less power and more weight.....but damn is it pretty.

m4a1mustang 10-14-2015 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3327894)
i'll take RWD for the slides :yum:

M4: it starts at 51.....you and I both know with a couple basic options it'll be 60k in the blink of the eye with BMW prices lol

decent equipment it'll be 60-65k i'd say but in the end you'll be in corvette price range with slightly less power and more weight.....but damn is it pretty.

It actually is coming loaded with a lot of good stuff standard, so I wouldn't expect it to cost that much with options. I wouldn't be surprised if BMW drops the price on the M235i, which currently starts at about $44k.

I don't think the M2 will be over $60k well-equipped.

FPenvy 10-14-2015 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 3327898)
It actually is coming loaded with a lot of good stuff standard, so I wouldn't expect it to cost that much with options. I wouldn't be surprised if BMW drops the price on the M235i, which currently starts at about $44k.

I don't think the M2 will be over $60k well-equipped.

if it is I may be a BMW guy lol

I love this piece of an article I was just reading:

"while the DCT transmission has what BMW actually calls a "smoky burnout function." :bowrofl:

I want to see this function in action lol

Firebase99 10-14-2015 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 3327898)
It actually is coming loaded with a lot of good stuff standard, so I wouldn't expect it to cost that much with options. I wouldn't be surprised if BMW drops the price on the M235i, which currently starts at about $44k.

I don't think the M2 will be over $60k well-equipped.

Its a BMW...itll be EASY $65K decently equipped. TBH, Id be SHOCKED to get it well equipped below 70. They are almost as bad as Porsche.

Rahul718 10-14-2015 10:31 AM

hmm...

I started saving up for the M4 earlier this year, hoping to have a sizeable down payment by summer 2017 but if the price of this M2 stays under $55k for me, I might get that instead of the m4 and probably sooner too. I don't care much for getting every option - the paint is probably the only thing I'd spend extra on, so I'd be curious to see if the price would stay below $55k in that case

m4a1mustang 10-14-2015 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 3327969)
Its a BMW...itll be EASY $65K decently equipped. TBH, Id be SHOCKED to get it well equipped below 70. They are almost as bad as Porsche.

Lets not sensationalize things. A well equipped M4 is $70-73k.

FPenvy 10-14-2015 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 3327997)
Lets not sensationalize things. A well equipped M4 is $70-73k.

the M4 I pieced together was 102k......

:wtf2:

m4a1mustang 10-14-2015 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3328005)
the M4 I pieced together was 102k......

:wtf2:

Because "well equipped" to FP is "every option under the sun, including $10,000 brakes that no one needs." :rofl2:

FPenvy 10-14-2015 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 3328007)
Because "well equipped" to FP is "every option under the sun, including $10,000 brakes that no one needs." :rofl2:

blasphemy. everyone needs carbon ceramics.


also every CF option......I have issues, I know.

m4a1mustang 10-14-2015 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3328008)
blasphemy. everyone needs carbon ceramics.


also every CF option......I have issues, I know.

I just built one out for a bit over $73k. It's called being sensible, man. :rofl2:

FPenvy 10-14-2015 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 3328015)
I just built one out for a bit over $73k. It's called being sensible, man. :rofl2:

the prices must have dropped since the release. I just did one with options and CC brakes (8K option btw lol) for 87K total. ehhh not bad :bowrofl:

m4a1mustang 10-14-2015 10:55 AM

Same prices as I remember them.

Maybe you're just... becoming more sensible. :p

FPenvy 10-14-2015 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 3328032)
Same prices as I remember them.

Maybe you're just... becoming more sensible. :p

oh no I clicked almost everything lol

all 3 packages, black wheels, M suspension, DCT, parking assist, etc...

think I only left out the rear sunshade lol :bowrofl:

Firebase99 10-14-2015 12:14 PM

I just built an M4 for $80,045. An M2 will be $70K similar equipped, no problem.

GZ3 10-14-2015 12:29 PM

Damn you nissan.... At this rate im just going to spring for a low mileage GTR... Im giving up on the Z line lol

m4a1mustang 10-14-2015 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 3328075)
I just built an M4 for $80,045. An M2 will be $70K similar equipped, no problem.

I highly doubt it. You simply won't be able to add the types of options that you can with the M3/M4 to tack an extra $20k onto the price.

http://www.2addicts.com/forums/attac...2&d=1439492411

FPenvy 10-14-2015 01:41 PM

hmmmm now seeing that it comes with a good bit of what I would add like CF interior pieces and black wheels, sports seats, etc...

personally i'd add the auto DCT, sun roof, heated seats/wheel, window sun glazing, and auto dimming mirrors. those are so nice to have with dbags around here who only know high beams lol.

not sure what comfort access provides.

also I love alpine white :yum:

FPenvy 10-14-2015 01:45 PM

Full BMW M2 options / equipment list (+ codes). Production starts for February 2016

longer list of options some guy posted from when he ordered his

m4a1mustang 10-14-2015 01:48 PM

This car is going to be under $60k well-equipped. Easily.

FPenvy 10-14-2015 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 3328139)
This car is going to be under $60k well-equipped. Easily.

:iagree:

hmmm now its do I go with the M2, C7, or keep saving and working to the GT-R lol

m4a1mustang 10-14-2015 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3328140)
:iagree:

hmmm now its do I go with the M2, C7, or keep saving and working to the GT-R lol

The answer is obvious... you are a GT-R fanboi. You must follow your heart.

FPenvy 10-14-2015 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 3328141)
The answer is obvious... you are a GT-R fanboi. You must follow your heart.

oh steve you know me sooo well! I love it lol :tup:

FPenvy 10-14-2015 02:09 PM

it has gopro stuff? nav screen lights up with the "M" logo then the gopro logo like its a direct connect to the car? hmm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bG6V3DF2hI

Firebase99 10-14-2015 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 3328139)
This car is going to be under $60k well-equipped. Easily.

No...

m4a1mustang 10-14-2015 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 3328152)
No...

Alright buddy, I'll take your word for it. :wtf2:

Firebase99 10-14-2015 02:12 PM

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Firebase99 10-14-2015 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 3328153)
Alright buddy, I'll take your word for it. :wtf2:

Was trying to be funny, not combative and got a call in the middle of my meme post. This work thing is a kick in the teeth I tell ya. I just think its in C7 league and will be priced as such. Its a hunch.

m4a1mustang 10-14-2015 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 3328157)
Was trying to be funny, not combative and got a call in the middle of my meme post. This work thing is a kick in the teeth I tell ya. I just think its in C7 league and will be priced as such. Its a hunch.

I'd just like a real explanation as to why, not just a hunch, given we have some pretty solid information available to us right now to get a pretty close estimate to what a "well-equipped" M2 should cost. Namely the base price ($51k) and the options list.

Based on the options list, and using BMW's pricing with the M3/M4 options suite, we are likely looking at only $3-6k ($3,200 Executive Package, possibly the $1,700 driver assistance package) in options to consider the car "well-equipped," which tells us it will be under $60k easily.

What I am more interested in is what happens to the price of the M240 (now M235). If the M2 is starting at $51k and comes with the standard features listed in the two images above, then BMW must be planning to reduce the price of the rest of the 2 series line. They can certainly do it given the Euro weakness and dollar strength.

We'll see.

FPenvy 10-14-2015 02:21 PM

looked up some UK order sheets and prices. conversions put most with a few extras at 66-75k

m4a1mustang 10-14-2015 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3328160)
looked up some UK order sheets and prices. conversions put most with a few extras at 66-75k

The car is priced higher in the UK market than it is in the US market. In the UK, it is limited to 500 units with a base price of 44,070 GBP, or about $68k here. The options are more expensive as well.

Meanwhile it starts at $51k in the US market... no word (that I've seen yet) on planned production numbers.

FPenvy 10-14-2015 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 3328162)
The car is priced higher in the UK market than it is in the US market. In the UK, it is limited to 500 units with a base price of 44,070 GBP, or about $68k here. The options are more expensive as well.

Meanwhile it starts at $51k in the US market... no word (that I've seen yet) on planned production numbers.

see this is why I keep you around lol I didn't know they were doing that in the UK I've just getting on the research for this.

sidenote: I don't agree with the super low production numbers for cars like this. doesn't make sense. make your money if there's demand. it's not a 3 million dollar hyper car that the likes of Ferrari make 5 of or something. that's a little different....it's a beefed up 235.

BlackZeda 10-15-2015 08:37 AM

The more I see it, the more I like it, but unlike the M4, which would have replaced my Z, I am looking at the M2 as a complementary car for winter and more practical driving. So the price seems to be right, but they need to offer it in XDrive for me to even consider it. I would also get the automatic. So I guess I have to wait even longer to find out if I am even interested in it.

The more I see it the more I like it. It is much more sporty than the M4, which is just a bit too stretched out and when seeing them on the road they don't really get me too excited.

vividracing 10-15-2015 11:34 AM

Idk, at this point the amount of "M" models is kind of out of control. Is there really a need to have an M version of every car they make? It kind of detracts from the essence of what the car is to me. :twocents:

FPenvy 10-15-2015 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by vividracing (Post 3328647)
Idk, at this point the amount of "M" models is kind of out of control. Is there really a need to have an M version of every car they make? It kind of detracts from the essence of what the car is to me. :twocents:

I think it's smart. you got the groups of people who end up getting the 235 or 335 or whatever and adding the little baby M stuff to not spend the extra 10/20/30k for the M version itself. but the way they did it now with the M2 comin in 10K less MSRP than the M3/M4 should help move more units. that's the point in the end really is moving units.

regardless fo if you feel it's oversaturation or on the flip it's good to branch out I personally dig the M2.

hell if the M4 wasn't the cost of a GT-R after you add a couple options that would be a nice car to have as well lol

m4a1mustang 10-15-2015 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vividracing (Post 3328647)
Idk, at this point the amount of "M" models is kind of out of control. Is there really a need to have an M version of every car they make? It kind of detracts from the essence of what the car is to me. :twocents:

I think it makes sense for the 2, 3&4, and 5. The M SUVs are silly but people buy them.

Now the M-Sport line, as an M-Sport owner, is kind of silly. I wish they didn't have as much M branding on what really isn't an M car, but apparently it sells. :icon17:

BlackZeda 10-16-2015 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by vividracing (Post 3328647)
Idk, at this point the amount of "M" models is kind of out of control. Is there really a need to have an M version of every car they make? It kind of detracts from the essence of what the car is to me. :twocents:

This will be an unpopular statement, but I totally agree with you especially about the M3, M5 and M6 Grand Coupe (it's a f**king sedan). If you have 4 doors, what is the point about souping up a practical means of conveyance. When I have passengers in the car, I want to get them there as safely as possible in a comfortable manner. Plus people weight a lot. Now I suppose if I lived in Germany and I drove the autobahn I would have a different opinion.

The M2 is different in that there is no sedan version of the model, meaning it is a pure sports coupe, and for me that makes it slightly more practical than my Z, plus it has a lot more zip than the 2-series. It looks cool too. This puts me in their target market (provided that they offer it in XDrive).

m4a1mustang 10-16-2015 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 3329179)
This will be an unpopular statement, but I totally agree with you especially about the M3, M5 and M6 Grand Coupe (it's a f**king sedan). If you have 4 doors, what is the point about souping up a practical means of conveyance. When I have passengers in the car, I want to get them there as safely as possible in a comfortable manner. Plus people weight a lot. Now I suppose if I lived in Germany and I drove the autobahn I would have a different opinion.

The M2 is different in that there is no sedan version of the model, meaning it is a pure sports coupe, and for me that makes it slightly more practical than my Z, plus it has a lot more zip than the 2-series. It looks cool too. This puts me in their target market (provided that they offer it in XDrive).

Just because something has 4 doors doesn't mean it has to be simply about practicality and efficiency. There is no rule that says only 2 door cars can be for performance. There are plenty of 4 door cars out there that are better sports cars than many 2 door cars.

tomas6791 10-16-2015 12:44 PM

BMW M2 Visualizer Shows Us Some of the M Performance Parts

http://www.dpccars.com/blog/wp-conte...ce-Parts-1.jpg

From the article:
You might consider that the €12,000 difference between the M2 and M4 might be justified, but then again, you don’t get as many carbon fiber parts on the new model as you do on its bigger brother. With the M Performance parts, you can make up for some of that ground but not to great lengths.

Photos and article - BMW M2 Visualizer Shows Us Some of the M Performance Parts

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