Bmw m2

BlackZeda · 04-21-2016, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

An X-drive M car? That would like kill M heritage driving dynamics. So why the must have AWD in your sports application?

I could really give a s**t about BMW's "M heritage" since they have sullied it with all their recent offerings (an "M" SUV!). I just want a performance winter car which seems Audi, VW, Ford and Subaru seem capable to offer, whereas BMW are apparently falling behind Chevy in RWD performance. I have my Z for my sports application thank you very much.

zmanelite · 04-19-2016, 02:07 PM

I've been looking at this one for the wife
She test drove one and really liked it

FPenvy · 04-19-2016, 03:24 PM

welp the M2 has TQ stock but the HP numbers arent great lol

i think something is wrong here.....

290whp/350wtq on a dynodynamic dyno

i dont think that the car would lose 22% through a 6MT

even something like my 7AT in the Z is only around 17-20% loss

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-19-2016, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

welp the M2 has TQ stock but the HP numbers arent great lol

i think something is wrong here.....

290whp/350wtq on a dynodynamic dyno

i dont think that the car would lose 22% through a 6MT

even something like my 7AT in the Z is only around 17-20% loss

He said the probability of the gas having too little octane is the culprit.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-19-2016, 03:57 PM

https://youtu.be/QdMkccgwP8g

Unlike the M4, this sounds good. I can only imagine what a properly tuned aftermarket exhaust would sound like.

I just wish it looked just a little more exotic. A little more distinct. But it's a handsome vehicle, none the least.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-20-2016, 06:28 PM

I been watching different reviews. Some say it has ZERO FEEDBACK, others say steering is sublime.Some say it' sounds artificial, while others say it sounds better than a m4.

If I go this route? I'm getting an aftermarket exhaust n the worlds loudest BOV's. So I'll solve that issue. But I really hate numb steering. Smh.

FPenvy · 04-21-2016, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I been watching different reviews. Some say it has ZERO FEEDBACK, others say steering is sublime.Some say it' sounds artificial, while others say it sounds better than a m4.

If I go this route? I'm getting an aftermarket exhaust n the worlds loudest BOV's. So I'll solve that issue. But I really hate numb steering. Smh.

the reviews have been here and there which sucks for people like us who may be interested. not like a dealership will be too pleased if we went hard on a test drive to actually feel what it would be like to push it to that limit lol

I agree I would drop the cats, probably the mufflers too, and let the extra boost vent to atmos

however........I don't know why but I'm still holding on to the slight bit of hope of a new Z. because IF they make one it'll be the same weight or less than the M@ with more HP and just 10-15ft/lbs less torque. also I think it'll look much better than the M2. I do like the look of the M2 I just think a Z if styled correctly is going to be better.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-21-2016, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

the reviews have been here and there which sucks for people like us who may be interested. not like a dealership will be too pleased if we went hard on a test drive to actually feel what it would be like to push it to that limit lol

I agree I would drop the cats, probably the mufflers too, and let the extra boost vent to atmos

however........I don't know why but I'm still holding on to the slight bit of hope of a new Z. because IF they make one it'll be the same weight or less than the M@ with more HP and just 10-15ft/lbs less torque. also I think it'll look much better than the M2. I do like the look of the M2 I just think a Z if styled correctly is going to be better.

We're in the same boat, I'm giving Nissan till the end of this year to have DIRECT NEWS about the Z. The Q60 coupe is on my list. I just want to see other colors and variations. I intend to test drive that this winter. They style is growing on me. They've taken some good camera angles as of late.

I'm dying for another Z with hydraulic steering and an improvement in tightness at TDC. The Z in my opinion is uneclipseable when you're talking handling to feedback ratio for the money. A modifiable turbo Z gets me horny. And pics of a car version grip Z makes me stroke into orgasm. The next gen Z is it for me. Strongly considering trading mine in for a silver nismo, and doing n/a mods like new plenum, camshafts, short tube headers and a meisterschaft axle back. See if I could crank out a straight 400hp in NA mods on a Nismo, to compliment a turbo nismo Z35

Just a thought I've been toying with. I originally wanted a turbo kit on my car but then I thought. An extra 180lbs on an already heavy front? Naaah

FPenvy · 04-21-2016, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

We're in the same boat, I'm giving Nissan till the end of this year to have DIRECT NEWS about the Z. The Q60 coupe is on my list. I just want to see other colors and variations. I intend to test drive that this winter. They style is growing on me. They've taken some good camera angles as of late.

I'm dying for another Z with hydraulic steering and an improvement in tightness at TDC. The Z in my opinion is uneclipseable when you're talking handling to feedback ratio for the money. A modifiable turbo Z gets me horny. And pics of a car version grip Z makes me stroke into orgasm. The next gen Z is it for me. Strongly considering trading mine in for a silver nismo, and doing n/a mods like new plenum, camshafts, short tube headers and a meisterschaft axle back. See if I could crank out a straight 400hp in NA mods on a Nismo, to compliment a turbo nismo Z35

Just a thought I've been toying with. I originally wanted a turbo kit on my car but then I thought. An extra 180lbs on an already heavy front? Naaah

for the money you need to get to 400 NA HP I'd rather go boost.

also the Q60 is going to be overpriced. a Q50 AWD 3.0T 400 red sport with tech option is 60k or 58k for RWD. for that money I would rather have the BMW M2 or something else. the Q50 hasn't grown on me and the Q60 will easily be 60k as well which for that price you can have a Z51 C7 or a very used GT-R.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-21-2016, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

for the money you need to get to 400 NA HP I'd rather go boost.

also the Q60 is going to be overpriced. a Q50 AWD 3.0T 400 red sport with tech option is 60k or 58k for RWD. for that money I would rather have the BMW M2 or something else. the Q50 hasn't grown on me and the Q60 will easily be 60k as well which for that price you can have a Z51 C7 or a very used GT-R.

I would have to drive them back to back. The Q60 should be a little lighter than the M2 and have 30 more hp. It may have Z like driving dynamics at that weight and power level. But the M2 has DCT which makes it a more compelling offer, plus the rarity of an M car. But we'll see.

I know getting in cams and getting the right tune will be halfway to a turbo in terms of money. But you're talking 180lbs to the front of the car. Plus having to bulk up the AT to handle turbo power which nod throws the cost higher for the turbo. The NA set up will last longer in reliability and hopefully I'll have the Z35 to mod the stock turbos to.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-22-2016, 12:11 PM

TFL REVIEW
https://youtu.be/sPccZZSGZRg

BlackZeda · 04-25-2016, 08:48 AM

Strangely, all of these gushing reviews of the M2 are really turning me off of it. I remember just a few months ago how awesome the M3/4 was and all of a sudden it is complete garbage compared to the M2. It seems there are so many better options out there.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-25-2016, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda

Strangely, all of these gushing reviews of the M2 are really turning me off of it. I remember just a few months ago how awesome the M3/4 was and all of a sudden it is complete garbage compared to the M2. It seems there are so many better options out there.

The proof is in the test drive. I hope I can find a tester.

Electronic steering is usually the turn off.

Firebase99 · 04-26-2016, 08:26 AM

Are these out yet? I SWEAR I saw one my way to work this morning.

FPenvy · 04-26-2016, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99

Are these out yet? I SWEAR I saw one my way to work this morning.

yes they're out.

there is 2 at the dealership by my house actually.

also we had 2 at cars and coffee last week.

04-19-2016, 02:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
zmanelite Track Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Anaheim Posts: 753 Drives: 370 Z Nismo Rep Power: 37	I've been looking at this one for the wife She test drove one and really liked it UNKNOWN_370 likes this. __________________ Instagram @zmanscm Last edited by zmanelite; 04-19-2016 at 02:38 PM.

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UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	https://youtu.be/QdMkccgwP8g Unlike the M4, this sounds good. I can only imagine what a properly tuned aftermarket exhaust would sound like. I just wish it looked just a little more exotic. A little more distinct. But it's a handsome vehicle, none the least. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

04-20-2016, 06:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	I been watching different reviews. Some say it has ZERO FEEDBACK, others say steering is sublime.Some say it' sounds artificial, while others say it sounds better than a m4. If I go this route? I'm getting an aftermarket exhaust n the worlds loudest BOV's. So I'll solve that issue. But I really hate numb steering. Smh. FPenvy likes this. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

04-22-2016, 12:11 PM	#11 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	TFL REVIEW https://youtu.be/sPccZZSGZRg __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

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Firebase99 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: fl Posts: 1,372 Drives: 14 3.8 Gen Coupe GT Rep Power: 14034	Are these out yet? I SWEAR I saw one my way to work this morning. __________________ '14 3.8 Genesis Coupe, '13 Volvo S60, '04 Honda Accord, '13 370Z-sold, '05 350Z Touring-sold, '92 300Z Twin Turbo-sold, '82 280ZX-gone, '79 260Z-gone

04-25-2016, 08:48 AM	#12 (permalink)
BlackZeda A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 1,109 Drives: 19 Audi TT RS Rep Power: 22	Strangely, all of these gushing reviews of the M2 are really turning me off of it. I remember just a few months ago how awesome the M3/4 was and all of a sudden it is complete garbage compared to the M2. It seems there are so many better options out there.