Bmw m2

m4a1mustang · 10-28-2015, 04:14 PM

20 hp really doesn't mean much here. This car will probably dominate the Nismo, which at damn near 47k loaded is a ripoff.

/Angelo350Z/ · 10-28-2015, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

20 hp really doesn't mean much here. This car will probably dominate the Nismo, which at damn near 47k loaded is a ripoff.

It really is overpriced. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I would rather get a Mustang GT than a $47K Nismo.

I'll see myself out ...

brucelidat · 10-28-2015, 06:59 PM

A friend of mine who tracks a lot and is actually an instructor with a HPDE instructor said the m4 felt squishy and that the steering feel was horrible. He basically says the m4 sucks (current gen, not the older ones). Anyhow, I spec-ed out a m4 and ende up at 77k so a m2 would def be over 60k (DCT). I'm not a faa of the looks of the m2, though. I'm hoping the q60 coupe will be ood or the next Z will be. Steering feel is my biggest concern with the new cars though since they all seem to be going the electronic steering route.

tag824 · 10-28-2015, 08:53 PM

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A friend of mine who tracks a lot and is actually an instructor with a HPDE instructor said the m4 felt squishy and that the steering feel was horrible. He basically says the m4 sucks (current gen, not the older ones). Anyhow, I spec-ed out a m4 and ende up at 77k so a m2 would def be over 60k (DCT). I'm not a faa of the looks of the m2, though. I'm hoping the q60 coupe will be ood or the next Z will be. Steering feel is my biggest concern with the new cars though since they all seem to be going the electronic steering route.

I've seen lots of reviews that upon their first drives came to the same conclusion about the M4 not "feeling" right. On later test rides these same reviewers made changes to the M settings (Comfort, Sport or Sport +) for steering, dampers and throttle response. They went from being displeased with the car to raving about it. Electronic steering sucks pretty much all around and the M4 is no exception but the electric steering for it is better than most others and its a technology that's here to stay. If anyone thinks the Q60 or next Z won't have it, keep dreaming.

sunkist350z · 01-01-2016, 06:40 PM

Not much of a bimmer fan..but if I had money I would make this my daily driver.

BMW M2 Clip Is Aimed At Driving Enthusiasts

JC-Nismo · 01-01-2016, 08:46 PM

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Not much of a bimmer fan..but if I had money I would make this my daily driver.

BMW M2 Clip Is Aimed At Driving Enthusiasts

M4, nothing less!!!
BMW can keep these little M mini me's..................

Z-Girl 12 · 06-29-2016, 05:41 PM

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M4, nothing less!!!
BMW can keep these little M mini me's..................

Sooooo agreed...

cigarclifford · 06-29-2016, 05:42 PM

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Sooooo agreed...

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m4a1mustang · 01-01-2016, 08:52 PM

No way, man. The M4 is huge compared to the M3s of old. The M2 is practically the new M3.

DLSTR · 01-02-2016, 08:27 AM

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No way, man. The M4 is huge compared to the M3s of old. The M2 is practically the new M3.

M4a - this caused quite a bit of fuss when this was released!!

BMW M4??? Not so fast!

Comparison: BMW M4 vs M235i vs B4 Biturbo | Autocar

m4a1mustang · 01-02-2016, 09:06 AM

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M4a - this caused quite a bit of fuss when this was released!!

BMW M4??? Not so fast!

Comparison: BMW M4 vs M235i vs B4 Biturbo | Autocar

I remember that article, it is a good read!

I've been pretty impressed with the N55 (and N54) equipped BMWs. You can kind of build your own little M car depending on how you mod it, as highlighted by that Alpina.

DLSTR · 01-02-2016, 09:32 AM

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I remember that article, it is a good read!

I've been pretty impressed with the N55 (and N54) equipped BMWs. You can kind of build your own little M car depending on how you mod it, as highlighted by that Alpina.

After owning the M235i now for 2+years its amazing how much fun, pure driving fun this car is. Plenty o'power for that morning Autobahn run, nice brakes and great torque. Daily driving is fun!

The M2 to me will be the best M car. The 4 is a boat. Its huge and to be honest, as that article points out the value on the marginal difference in performance compared to others is not great at all. Size gets me down about it, its just too big and lacks the toss'ability an Mcar should provide.

The M2 is on the radar now. I wont consider the 4 and will not bother testing it. An engaging drive is never about just power!

I should be able to M2 test in March if things go well according to my dealer here.

m4a1mustang · 01-02-2016, 09:52 AM

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After owning the M235i now for 2+years its amazing how much fun, pure driving fun this car is. Plenty o'power for that morning Autobahn run, nice brakes and great torque. Daily driving is fun!

The M2 to me will be the best M car. The 4 is a boat. Its huge and to be honest, as that article points out the value on the marginal difference in performance compared to others is not great at all. Size gets me down about it, its just too big and lacks the toss'ability an Mcar should provide.

The M2 is on the radar now. I wont consider the 4 and will not bother testing it. An engaging drive is never about just power!

I should be able to M2 test in March if things go well according to my dealer here.

I agree that the M2 will be the best "Driver's M" car. I do like the M4 a lot as a grand tourer. I'd actually take a new Camaro SS over the M4... it's more fun to drive.

Continuing with the topic of BMW, my wife and I are considering buying an E70 X5 35i. Either a Sport Activity or M-Sport variant. If we do, I'm probably going to sell/trade my Z for it and take over our 2013 335i M-Sport. I'm in need of a car that is a bit more polished and practical anyway (new job, new lifestyle,) so I think it makes sense. If we go that route, I'm definitely adding Bilstein PSS10s, and maybe a JB Stage 1 for a little bit of extra power.

kenchan · 01-02-2016, 08:32 AM

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No way, man. The M4 is huge compared to the M3s of old. The M2 is practically the new M3.

taffyapple syndrome finally hits europe

JC-Nismo · 01-01-2016, 08:56 PM

Can't deny that, but I still like the M4 better, LOL.

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brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 31	A friend of mine who tracks a lot and is actually an instructor with a HPDE instructor said the m4 felt squishy and that the steering feel was horrible. He basically says the m4 sucks (current gen, not the older ones). Anyhow, I spec-ed out a m4 and ende up at 77k so a m2 would def be over 60k (DCT). I'm not a faa of the looks of the m2, though. I'm hoping the q60 coupe will be ood or the next Z will be. Steering feel is my biggest concern with the new cars though since they all seem to be going the electronic steering route. __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	No way, man. The M4 is huge compared to the M3s of old. The M2 is practically the new M3. FL 4Motion and DLSTR like this. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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sunkist350z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Z-land Posts: 1,009 Drives: 2012 370z sport 6-sp Rep Power: 55342	Not much of a bimmer fan..but if I had money I would make this my daily driver. BMW M2 Clip Is Aimed At Driving Enthusiasts

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JC-Nismo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,244 Drives: 2011 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 13	Can't deny that, but I still like the M4 better, LOL.