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Originally Posted by FPenvy I dig bikes but i'll probably never own one. I have an issue with high speed lol also I've grown up around bikes/bikers through my dad

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Old 10-26-2015, 03:17 PM   #61 (permalink)
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I dig bikes but i'll probably never own one. I have an issue with high speed lol

also I've grown up around bikes/bikers through my dad and his friends and it's not the issue of the bike being dangerous. it's the fact that most drivers on the road are idiots.
Isn't that the truth. You pick up on a lot more idiocy when you're riding. It can get exciting for sure!
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Haha! It's not that at all. I've just decided that, for the money, I'd rather buy a bike! They are so much more economical. I paid $2000 for my first bike and have had more fun on it than any of my other cars combined. Next year I might spend $5-10k and buy another bike, and have even more fun.

I still love a "over-engineered" Porsche 911, I just don't give enough ***** to pay for one! It's a taste change, and proves nothing!

I view cars now less as tools for fun and more as just tools. I still like them and I still get enjoyment from them, but after discovering the two-wheeled world everything has changed. Driving a car, no matter how good, just doesn't even come close to the excitement of riding. It's visceral, man. You're so exposed to... everything.

I think you are the first case of suffering from a "vehicular identity crisis"! LMFAO
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Nah, man, I'm in a good spot right now when you think about it. I have a modest sports car and sport sedan. Both are fun to drive and relatively economical. Then I have my two bikes, which are just fun on a completely different level... hard to describe. I get utility + fun from my cars, and then just outright fun from my bikes.

It's just safe to say that, since entering the two-wheeled realm, my lust for really expensive cars has waned. That's a good thing, I think. I save money in the long run, although I suppose my risk of catastrophic injury is a bit higher now.
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Looks horrible, not a fan of the styling, 51k for that thing? wtf? you'd have to like, give me the money to buy that, and then I'd sell it.
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Nah, man, I'm in a good spot right now when you think about it. I have a modest sports car and sport sedan. Both are fun to drive and relatively economical. Then I have my two bikes, which are just fun on a completely different level... hard to describe. I get utility + fun from my cars, and then just outright fun from my bikes.

It's just safe to say that, since entering the two-wheeled realm, my lust for really expensive cars has waned. That's a good thing, I think. I save money in the long run, although I suppose my risk of catastrophic injury is a bit higher now.
I'm F*ckin with you... :rofl: I would like a hyubusa & I'm actually thinking about hot rodding a Can-am spyder I see potential in those to have something fun and unique. But I'll deal with that after I decide what to do about my next sports car. These companies are all taking SOOOOO long.
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When I test drove the M4 I felt like I was in a blinged-out, really fast Camry coupe. Not too bad, but I wasn't inspired. The manual version had the longest clutch throw I have ever experienced. That freaked me out.
You're comparing an M4's looks or otherwise to a Camry? I get that a car is subjective to each person, but that's beyond explanation.
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You're comparing an M4's looks or otherwise to a Camry? I get that a car is subjective to each person, but that's beyond explanation.
What exactly do you have against Camry's?
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Idk, at this point the amount of "M" models is kind of out of control. Is there really a need to have an M version of every car they make? It kind of detracts from the essence of what the car is to me.
The "M" Option is very common and available for every single BMW model in Germany. For instance, a lowly 1992 530 had an "M" option from the dealer which included an upgraded steering wheel, suspension, badge, etc. The M2, on the other hand seems like a decent, but not not great, deal for under $60K with 370+ hp. I mean, it all depends on how much one is willing to pay for 20+ hp over a Nismo. I might still pick a Cayman S over an M2 though.
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20 hp really doesn't mean much here. This car will probably dominate the Nismo, which at damn near 47k loaded is a ripoff.
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20 hp really doesn't mean much here. This car will probably dominate the Nismo, which at damn near 47k loaded is a ripoff.
It really is overpriced. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I would rather get a Mustang GT than a $47K Nismo.

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A friend of mine who tracks a lot and is actually an instructor with a HPDE instructor said the m4 felt squishy and that the steering feel was horrible. He basically says the m4 sucks (current gen, not the older ones). Anyhow, I spec-ed out a m4 and ende up at 77k so a m2 would def be over 60k (DCT). I'm not a faa of the looks of the m2, though. I'm hoping the q60 coupe will be ood or the next Z will be. Steering feel is my biggest concern with the new cars though since they all seem to be going the electronic steering route.
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A friend of mine who tracks a lot and is actually an instructor with a HPDE instructor said the m4 felt squishy and that the steering feel was horrible. He basically says the m4 sucks (current gen, not the older ones). Anyhow, I spec-ed out a m4 and ende up at 77k so a m2 would def be over 60k (DCT). I'm not a faa of the looks of the m2, though. I'm hoping the q60 coupe will be ood or the next Z will be. Steering feel is my biggest concern with the new cars though since they all seem to be going the electronic steering route.
I've seen lots of reviews that upon their first drives came to the same conclusion about the M4 not "feeling" right. On later test rides these same reviewers made changes to the M settings (Comfort, Sport or Sport +) for steering, dampers and throttle response. They went from being displeased with the car to raving about it. Electronic steering sucks pretty much all around and the M4 is no exception but the electric steering for it is better than most others and its a technology that's here to stay. If anyone thinks the Q60 or next Z won't have it, keep dreaming.
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