FORD FOCUS RS $42,000 w/manual only tranny!

Chuck33079 · 09-05-2015, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Davey

No need to **** on everything because it's "not as cool as a Z".

Seriously with a few notable exceptions, this forum seems more like fanboys than car guys lately.

It's not "lately". It's always been that way.

It has gotten a lot worse now that these cars have gotten really cheap. Forums go to hell on the third owners of a car. Once you can pick up a car for <$15k, it really brings the idiots out of the woodwork.

zmanelite · 09-05-2015, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Davey

As a former STI owner, I can appreciate the turbo hot hatch with AWD aspect. If this car brings the performance expected, I totally think it's worth $37K.

It would never replace my Z, unless I decided to cut back to 1 vehicle, but that's a whole different story.

I'm a huge fan of the Z (I've owned a half-dozen over the years) but not every car can be a 2-door 2-seat sports coupe. No need to **** on everything because it's "not as cool as a Z".

Seriously with a few notable exceptions, this forum seems more like fanboys than car guys lately.

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

It's not "lately". It's always been that way.

It has gotten a lot worse now that these cars have gotten really cheap. Forums go to hell on the third owners of a car. Once you can pick up a car for <$15k, it really brings the idiots out of the woodwork.

im with you guys
Love my Z but as a DD i prefer a 4dr fun car , im actually in the process of getting a EVO, STI or Golf R
I can use it as a track car and DD , i cant use the Z as i put way too much money into it and is now a trailer queen

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-06-2015, 04:14 PM

I want the A45AMG. It's the holy grail of hot hatches...

JC-Nismo · 09-06-2015, 06:01 PM

I wouldn't care if it had a GT 500 engine in it, I still wouldn't want it.................Dude it's a Ford Focus.

sunkist350z · 09-07-2015, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JC-Nismo

I wouldn't care if it had a GT 500 engine in it, I still wouldn't want it.................Dude it's a Ford Focus.

Davey · 09-08-2015, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JC-Nismo

I wouldn't care if it had a GT 500 engine in it, I still wouldn't want it.................Dude it's a Ford Focus.

Reality check: You drive a Nissan.

sunkist350z · 09-08-2015, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey

Reality check: You drive a Nissan.

Would rather be driving a Nissan than a hocus pocus pos focus ford F=frequently O=on R=repair D=duty or doody

Davey · 09-08-2015, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sunkist350z

Would rather be driving a Nissan than a hocus pocus pos focus ford F=frequently O=on R=repair D=duty or doody

We're all super happy for you.

triso07 · 09-09-2015, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by sunkist350z

Would rather be driving a Nissan than a hocus pocus pos focus ford F=frequently O=on R=repair D=duty or doody

That's some old school thinking there.

Badge snobbery is dumb.

BlackZeda · 09-09-2015, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by triso07

That's some old school thinking there.

Badge snobbery is dumb.

So are you saying there is no difference between manufacturers and brands in terms of quality and reliability?

The Dimer · 09-09-2015, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda

So are you saying there is no difference between manufacturers and brands in terms of quality and reliability?

There are definitely differences, but to think Nissan is above and beyond Ford (especially today's Ford) is a bit of a stretch. The whole Found On Road Dead thing is definitely an old school train of thought and makes people sound like they're just trying to justify the purchase of their brand to themselves.

sunkist350z · 09-10-2015, 03:57 AM

Please for the love of God end this pathetic thread.

Zbo · 09-10-2015, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by sunkist350z

Please for the love of God end this pathetic thread.

Don't be mad american cars are leaving Nissan performance in the dust ; also the gtr is not affordable and the z is a joke with its highest Nismo model sitting at dealers barely being sold while the ford gt 350 / r and focus Rs are sold out for pre orders ..

RicerX · 09-10-2015, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Zbo

Don't be mad american cars are leaving Nissan performance in the dust ; also the gtr is not affordable and the z is a joke with its highest Nismo model sitting at dealers barely being sold while the ford gt 350 / r and focus Rs are sold out for pre orders ..

The GT-R was never meant to be "affordable" just like the upcoming Ford GT won't be.

The current Mustang is how many years newer than the current Z? The Focus RS is technically not even out yet.

I understand your sentiment of Nissan not currently offering comparable performance options to Ford's lineup that is less than a year old, but let's be realistic - these things don't happen overnight, either.

When Nissan incrementally improved the 370Z over the 350Z, it decimated... for one model year. The competition has been responding very effectively ever since. Don't you think this time around it might be wise for Nissan to sit back and let their competition blow their wads first? The market is in a crazy place of fluctuation as there is a completely different demographic for a Z type car now than there was in 2009.

Furthermore, while I think the Focus RS is awesome, when has Nissan EVER competed in the hot hatch segment for the American market? Hard to lose a game when you're not playing. Would I like to see a Nismo Pulsar here? Absolutely! But imagine if that concept two years ago showed up with a 220hp turbo from a Juke RS... it would get stomped and sit on the lots.

On the subject of badge snobbery and such, I'll leave you with an elaboration of a point I made earlier...

It's a great time to be a performance car guy. The 370Z is still a damn good car for the money (if we're talking sport package only, which is really what performance guys should be concerned with), but there's just a lot of other options out there. However, the Nissan badge snobbery is really only effective if you're into crossovers, because no one has the crossover game handled quite like Nissan.

Firebase99 · 09-10-2015, 10:07 AM

All this speculation and all the platforms out that are ROUGHLY comparable I dont see a new Z being...how do I phrase it? Maybe "exponentially evolved". I.E., 400+ HP, lightweight, unreal suspension, mega tech. Not for a "at most" $35K sports car. Maybe theyll go retro, not with styling but, like the 86's, small, IDX style but hopefully VERY light, 2900 pounds, 300BHP, 300Tq. Throw the 2.0 turbo in, hands free everything, mobile phone apps, all the gadgetry my $32K Genesis has plus more. If they make it "bigger, badder, more powerful" to keep up with Detroit, youre basically looking at a Vette. There are NO 400hp+ 2 seat coupes on the market for $40K...and I dont think there will be for obvious reasons.

View Poll Results: Would you pay over $40k for a hot hach from Ford?
Totally worth it! Keep raising them prices Ford!!	10	12.66%
Hell no! $42k? Id do it for the benz though?	46	58.23%
Neither! AWD Hot hatches just aren't my thing!	23	29.11%
Voters: 79. You may not vote on this poll

09-06-2015, 04:14 PM	#63 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	I want the A45AMG. It's the holy grail of hot hatches... __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

09-06-2015, 06:01 PM	#64 (permalink)
JC-Nismo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,244 Drives: 2011 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 13	I wouldn't care if it had a GT 500 engine in it, I still wouldn't want it.................Dude it's a Ford Focus. sunkist350z and ZeeingAround like this.

09-10-2015, 10:07 AM	#75 (permalink)
Firebase99 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: fl Posts: 1,372 Drives: 14 3.8 Gen Coupe GT Rep Power: 14034	All this speculation and all the platforms out that are ROUGHLY comparable I dont see a new Z being...how do I phrase it? Maybe "exponentially evolved". I.E., 400+ HP, lightweight, unreal suspension, mega tech. Not for a "at most" $35K sports car. Maybe theyll go retro, not with styling but, like the 86's, small, IDX style but hopefully VERY light, 2900 pounds, 300BHP, 300Tq. Throw the 2.0 turbo in, hands free everything, mobile phone apps, all the gadgetry my $32K Genesis has plus more. If they make it "bigger, badder, more powerful" to keep up with Detroit, youre basically looking at a Vette. There are NO 400hp+ 2 seat coupes on the market for $40K...and I dont think there will be for obvious reasons. RicerX likes this. __________________ '14 3.8 Genesis Coupe, '13 Volvo S60, '04 Honda Accord, '13 370Z-sold, '05 350Z Touring-sold, '92 300Z Twin Turbo-sold, '82 280ZX-gone, '79 260Z-gone

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sunkist350z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Z-land Posts: 1,009 Drives: 2012 370z sport 6-sp Rep Power: 55341	Please for the love of God end this pathetic thread.