FORD FOCUS RS $42,000 w/manual only tranny!

Chuck33079

It's not "lately". It's always been that way. It has gotten a lot worse now that these cars have gotten really cheap. Forums go to hell on the third owners of a car. Once you can pick up a car for <$15k, it really brings the idiots out of the woodwork.

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zmanelite

im with you guys
Love my Z but as a DD i prefer a 4dr fun car , im actually in the process of getting a EVO, STI or Golf R
I can use it as a track car and DD , i cant use the Z as i put way too much money into it and is now a trailer queen

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UNKNOWN_370

I want the A45AMG. It's the holy grail of hot hatches...

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JC-Nismo

I wouldn't care if it had a GT 500 engine in it, I still wouldn't want it.................Dude it's a Ford Focus.

sunkist350z

Davey

Reality check: You drive a Nissan.

sunkist350z

Would rather be driving a Nissan than a hocus pocus pos focus ford F=frequently O=on R=repair D=duty or doody

Davey

We're all super happy for you.

triso07

That's some old school thinking there.

Badge snobbery is dumb.

BlackZeda

So are you saying there is no difference between manufacturers and brands in terms of quality and reliability?

sunkist350z

Please for the love of God end this pathetic thread.

Zbo

Don't be mad american cars are leaving Nissan performance in the dust ; also the gtr is not affordable and the z is a joke with its highest Nismo model sitting at dealers barely being sold while the ford gt 350 / r and focus Rs are sold out for pre orders ..

RicerX

The GT-R was never meant to be "affordable" just like the upcoming Ford GT won't be.

The current Mustang is how many years newer than the current Z? The Focus RS is technically not even out yet.

I understand your sentiment of Nissan not currently offering comparable performance options to Ford's lineup that is less than a year old, but let's be realistic - these things don't happen overnight, either.

When Nissan incrementally improved the 370Z over the 350Z, it decimated... for one model year. The competition has been responding very effectively ever since. Don't you think this time around it might be wise for Nissan to sit back and let their competition blow their wads first? The market is in a crazy place of fluctuation as there is a completely different demographic for a Z type car now than there was in 2009.

Furthermore, while I think the Focus RS is awesome, when has Nissan EVER competed in the hot hatch segment for the American market? Hard to lose a game when you're not playing. Would I like to see a Nismo Pulsar here? Absolutely! But imagine if that concept two years ago showed up with a 220hp turbo from a Juke RS... it would get stomped and sit on the lots.

On the subject of badge snobbery and such, I'll leave you with an elaboration of a point I made earlier...

It's a great time to be a performance car guy. The 370Z is still a damn good car for the money (if we're talking sport package only, which is really what performance guys should be concerned with), but there's just a lot of other options out there. However, the Nissan badge snobbery is really only effective if you're into crossovers, because no one has the crossover game handled quite like Nissan.

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UNKNOWN_370

How do other car threads become Nissan comparos? It's one thing to make reference to a Z. It's another to make the Z the focal point of a thread about 5 door hot hatches.

No one has really even tried to make a comment on posted Vids and information on the two cars at hand.

Mercedes A45AMG
Which has amazing performance, the most powerful STOCK production 4 cylinder in the world and is not being sold in America.

Then we have the Ford Focus RS, will be the most powerful hatch in America, will be the most expensive hot hatch in America. $4,000 cheaper than a base Mercedes A45.

Comparable cars for comparison could be Mazda & Subaru.

The Z really has nothing to do with this segment. The reality is, most intelligent, performance oriented Z owners would look at hot hatches as a companion car. Not as competition

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Davey

Exactly!

You wouldn't be looking to replace a 2-seat coupe with this, unless your life situation was changing dramatically.

Lots of people have something as a "3rd car" whether it's a Miata or a Corvette or a Z or whatever, it's probably less than practical and is only used as a "toy." This is NOT that kind of car.

This is another "Swiss Army knife" type of car. Even if you don't like it, any success might bring more competition to that market, and that's a good thing, if you're in the market for something like this.

I actually would be kind of interested in one as a daily driver with a set of snows for winter duty. I wouldn't replace my Z with it, unless I wanted to replace my Z with nothing, because this just isn't that same kind of car.