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Exhaust 07-28-2015 12:18 AM

Porsche 911 or Jaguar F-Type?
 
Whats the difference, spec for spec the bases seem pretty similar. The sport 911 vs the sport F are huge differences so lets leave it at bases for comparison. Which one is the better buy, and why?

TN.Z 07-28-2015 12:42 AM

F Type coupe or convertible? Personally on looks alone I would take the F Type coupe. Not to mention it is cheaper with similar HP, more torque, only at the cost of 500 lbs. Also for the price of the base 911, you can buy an F Type S which is a supercharged V6. I think either way my vote would go F Type but I am biased against the 911.

Also, however off topic it may be, before I spent $80k on a base 911 I would personally buy a Cayman GT4 for $85k

YzGyz 07-28-2015 02:25 AM

WOW!! This is a toss up for me. I love both. I have yet to drive any but I can get a test drive if they run my credit. I think it would all come down to which one I can get the better deal for. Both are beast!

YzGyz

Firebase99 07-28-2015 06:07 AM

A base 911 vs an F-Type? F-type, no hesitation. Now 911 Carrera S nicely equipped vs F-Type...911, all day.

MagmaRed370z 07-28-2015 06:49 AM

911 if its a GTS or S.

BlackZeda 07-28-2015 08:12 AM

The F-Type looks much better (resembles a Z), but it is a Jaguar which I associate with unreliability. It is claimed that they have improved, but I wouldn't risk it.

The 911...enough said. Porsche all day. I would go for the Cayman GT4 as well though.

FPenvy 07-28-2015 08:13 AM

neither.

if you're spending that much cash go get a GT-R. 2015's are going for low 80's right now.

BlackZeda 07-28-2015 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3269025)
neither.

if you're spending that much cash go get a GT-R. 2015's are going for low 80's right now.

Not even comparable :shakes head:

FPenvy 07-28-2015 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 3269048)
Not even comparable :shakes head:

how so?

Chuck33079 07-28-2015 08:46 AM

Jags and 911s are beautiful cars. The GTR looks like a car designed completely by engineers. It's a technological marvel, but it's 7 kinds of ******* ugly.

FPenvy 07-28-2015 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3269059)
Jags and 911s are beautiful cars. The GTR looks like a car designed completely by engineers. It's a technological marvel, but it's 7 kinds of ******* ugly.

complete disagreement with you.

beauty is subjective.

engineering and technology is good if it works.

performance and cost based the GT-R blows those two out of the water.

:tiphat:

Chuck33079 07-28-2015 08:53 AM

If you spend that kind of money on a car, it should make you want to go out in the garage to just stare at it. The Jag has that, 911s have that. Hell, even a C7 or a Z has that. The GTR? At least you can't see the outside from the driver's seat. It's a shame, since all of the previous GTRs were gorgeous. This one is a solid "meh".

JARblue 07-28-2015 08:58 AM

Drive: GT-R
Stare: F-Type
Own: 911

Chuck33079 07-28-2015 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3269075)
Drive: GT-R
Stare: F-Type
Own: 911

Pretty much this. I'd never buy a Jag, but I'd lease one and give it back the instant it breaks.

FPenvy 07-28-2015 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3269067)
If you spend that kind of money on a car, it should make you want to go out in the garage to just stare at it. The Jag has that, 911s have that. Hell, even a C7 or a Z has that. The GTR? At least you can't see the outside from the driver's seat. It's a shame, since all of the previous GTRs were gorgeous. This one is a solid "meh".

jag is ok at best. overpriced and it's saving grace is the sound if you spend the 100k on the top version.

911.....looks ok. looks about the same forever and its a wider/longer version of the cheaper models cayman and boxster. 182k base for a turbo S which honestly turbo verison is the only way I would ever even consider one. the gt3 rs is about the only semi-good looking one as well.

you all are fuckin retarded sometimes. :shakes head:

if a GT-R wasn't an option i'd take a Z06 C7 over either of the two aforementioned vehicles in a heartbeat.

Chuck33079 07-28-2015 09:09 AM

Agreed on the Z06. I'd take that over the GTR any day, especially since it's the only one you can get a proper transmission in anymore.

TN.Z 07-28-2015 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3269095)
Agreed on the Z06. I'd take that over the GTR any day, especially since it's the only one you can get a proper transmission in anymore.


You can get the Cayman GT4 in the proper transmission, I am not even sure that they offer an automatic. IMO the best all around choice for 85k unless you want a DD, but none of these are really DD cars.

90 ST 07-28-2015 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TN.Z (Post 3269213)
You can get the Cayman GT4 in the proper transmission, I am not even sure that they offer an automatic. IMO the best all around choice for 85k unless you want a DD, but none of these are really DD cars.

Depends where you drive everyday...lol

I would rock a Cayman GT4 everyday, for the record. :)

MagmaRed370z 07-28-2015 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TN.Z (Post 3269213)
You can get the Cayman GT4 in the proper transmission, I am not even sure that they offer an automatic. IMO the best all around choice for 85k unless you want a DD, but none of these are really DD cars.

The 911 is considered a DD car. At least in Germany. Here in the US maybe.

BlackZeda 07-28-2015 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 3269048)
Not even comparable :shakes head:

The F-Type that the OP is speaking of is a MT, RWD sports car and is beautiful. The 911 is a legendary RWD, middish engine sports coupe that is iconic. The GT-R is AWD, AT only and IMO is hideous. Yes, looks are subjective, but to me there is not one good angle that is attractive. It is an example of function over form, and for something I would be driving on the street it doesn't do anything for me.

On a side note, I can just imagine how frustrated I would be driving a super fast vehicle like the GT-R, 911 GTS (or turbo) or Corvette. It is frustrating enough having to deal with other cars on the road in the relatively slow Z.

For me, I think I would go with a boosted Z over anything :driving:

tonybell_57 07-28-2015 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3269059)
Jags and 911s are beautiful cars. The GTR looks like a car designed completely by engineers. It's a technological marvel, but it's 7 kinds of ******* ugly.

I am SO glad to see that I am not the only person that thinks the GT-R is ugly!

BTW, I'd probably go for the Jag F-Type Roadster.

90 ST 07-28-2015 12:32 PM

This should help with some of the argument
What's Faster In A Straight Line: A Nissan GT-R Or An AWD Jaguar F-Type R?

FPenvy 07-28-2015 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 3269274)
The F-Type that the OP is speaking of is a MT, RWD sports car and is beautiful. The 911 is a legendary RWD, middish engine sports coupe that is iconic. The GT-R is AWD, AT only and IMO is hideous. Yes, looks are subjective, but to me there is not one good angle that is attractive. It is an example of function over form, and for something I would be driving on the street it doesn't do anything for me.

On a side note, I can just imagine how frustrated I would be driving a super fast vehicle like the GT-R, 911 GTS (or turbo) or Corvette. It is frustrating enough having to deal with other cars on the road in the relatively slow Z.

For me, I think I would go with a boosted Z over anything :driving:

the only f-type that is worth it is the type r which is auto and awd. the 911 is best had with the PDK tranny (also AT) and comes as AWD with RWD options.

so all your points about MT and RWD are void.

now for dealing with fast cars when there's others on the road it's a simple solution......go around them. you have a functioning right foot I would assume so try and use it.

boosted Z is a retarded alternative to those other choices. boosting an engine which is NA stock comes with headaches. ask anyone who's done it. it's rarely a smooth life afterwards. you give up a large percentage chance of having DD reliability which was the mentioned above I believe as a parameter.

FPenvy 07-28-2015 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90 ST (Post 3269289)

feel like "pantera - walk" should be played while watching that. the GT-R just casually blows the jag away. also the type with a few options ends up being a 125K car easily.

GT-R wins price and performance. to be honest looks as well. the F type isn't that great.

think a few of you have been drinking a little early today.

DCNISMO 07-28-2015 12:40 PM

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before I spent $80k on a base 911 I would personally buy a Cayman GT4 for $85k
Every allocation for the GT4 is sold, and people are selling the allocation already and flipping. So that 85K, add more to it. Thats a stripper too, add anything and it climbs fast. I have a 911 C4S, and once you get to drive one you really don't want to drive much of anything else. Sure lots of cars have more HP, but the overall experience is what counts. Only thing I would consider? The GT350H with a few options. If your tall like me, you can't fit in a C7 vette...I tried for 20 minutes to adjust the seats...no good. Maybe Tata Motors have improved the reliability of the new Jags, but I doubt it. If I was spending 80K or so, I would get a used 911 GT3, by upping that number some.

90 ST 07-28-2015 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3269295)
feel like "pantera - walk" should be played while watching that. the GT-R just casually blows the jag away. also the type with a few options ends up being a 125K car easily.

GT-R wins price and performance. to be honest looks as well. the F type isn't that great.

think a few of you have been drinking a little early today.

Of those 2 I would have to go GT-R for sure. For a lot of reasons, but the 911 or as mentioned before the GT4 Cayman would be my choice for a DD.

FPenvy 07-28-2015 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90 ST (Post 3269310)
Of those 2 I would have to go GT-R for sure. For a lot of reasons, but the 911 or as mentioned before the GT4 Cayman would be my choice for a DD.

GT4 cayman you wont be able to get ahold of unless you want to pay 150k+ or wait for one second hand.

if you're swinging that money get the Nismo GT-R and call it a day right lol

DCNISMO 07-28-2015 01:01 PM

Quote:

GT4 cayman you wont be able to get ahold of unless you want to pay 150k+ or wait for one second hand.
Even for the Cayman GTS cars, which are being traded by their owners to the dealers for the GT4, they are asking for MSRP and at times above MSRP....for used ones. Its silly stupid. Yes, a lightly used Cayman GTS can cost you above 85K....

FPenvy 07-28-2015 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DCNISMO (Post 3269321)
Even for the Cayman GTS cars, which are being traded by their owners to the dealers for the GT4, they are asking for MSRP and at times above MSRP....for used ones. Its silly stupid. Yes, a lightly used Cayman GTS can cost you above 85K....

yes it can and is not worth that kind of money at all.

GTS with PDK bases at 80K that's before all of the high priced options.

BlackZeda 07-28-2015 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3269291)
the only f-type that is worth it is the type r which is auto and awd. the 911 is best had with the PDK tranny (also AT) and comes as AWD with RWD options.

so all your points about MT and RWD are void.

now for dealing with fast cars when there's others on the road it's a simple solution......go around them. you have a functioning right foot I would assume so try and use it.

boosted Z is a retarded alternative to those other choices. boosting an engine which is NA stock comes with headaches. ask anyone who's done it. it's rarely a smooth life afterwards. you give up a large percentage chance of having DD reliability which was the mentioned above I believe as a parameter.

Go back and read the OP's original post. He is refering to the base models, not the R-Type or the GTS (or Turbo). That alone makes the GT-R not comparable.

As far as your "functioning right foot" comment...taking things personally?

I have had two supercharged vehicles and they were suprisingly reliable. Not expecting that when boosting the Z, but I plan on getting another DD by then. But this isn't about me.

FPenvy 07-28-2015 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 3269382)
Go back and read the OP's original post. He is refering to the base models, not the R-Type or the GTS (or Turbo). That alone makes the GT-R not comparable.

As far as your "functioning right foot" comment...taking things personally?

I have had two supercharged vehicles and they were suprisingly reliable. Not expecting that when boosting the Z, but I plan on getting another DD by then. But this isn't about me.

who would waste their money on a base 911 or base f type? lol

base f type is based at 65k. go get a vette.
base 911 all 350hp is really worth 90k again don't waste your money.

so base 911 is around 90k. 2015 gt-r are going in the 80's or similar. sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo it's actually quite comparable.

as for the right foot not personal just an observation.

what vehicles were supercharged? depending on what car and if oem or aftermarket make a difference.

:facepalm:

TN.Z 07-28-2015 02:47 PM

OP, are you looking at comparing these two for any specific reason? Are you set on buying one of these two. Honestly there are much better options unless you are stuck on those two. In that price range you can get an M3, M4, C63 AMG, Z06 Corvette, GT-R, and in all of those cases I would say you would end up with a better car than an F Type or a 911.

Firebase99 07-28-2015 03:07 PM

I don't think I've ever SEEN a base Porsche of any model post 2000. You'd probably have to special order it.

rooftop 07-28-2015 04:02 PM

911 probably a better buy for resale value

BlackZeda 07-28-2015 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 3269427)
I don't think I've ever SEEN a base Porsche of any model post 2000. You'd probably have to special order it.

Come to think of it I have never seen an F-Type on the road. There was one on display at an airport somewhere (maybe SFO). It was beautiful and mean-looking at the same time.

Are they uncommon around the US?

TN.Z 07-28-2015 09:03 PM

There are about three of them I see driving around my kinda small town, so I don't think they are uncommon.

FPenvy 07-28-2015 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 3269677)
Come to think of it I have never seen an F-Type on the road. There was one on display at an airport somewhere (maybe SFO). It was beautiful and mean-looking at the same time.



Are they uncommon around the US?


There's too many around me. At cars and coffee there's about 6 and I've seen multiple others around. It's an epidemic lol

Firebase99 07-29-2015 06:53 AM

Tons of them around here.

Mike 07-29-2015 09:05 AM

I chose the 911S
http://imageshack.com/a/img673/3206/8wpZbD.jpg

zmanelite 07-29-2015 09:33 AM

I've been seriously contemplating this

http://www.wheelsandchips.com/wp-con...0gCGyncWGr.jpg


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