900miles 43k$ so offer 40!!- https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...0437/overview/

The one that exists. The 2-door is just a design study by some arts student. There's a station wagon out there in the ether, also!

I agree with the article, that a coupe is a requirement to cement the brand's position. But just becuase it "makes sense", do not take it as a given that an Italian car maker will actually produce it! ;-)

Me, I'd probably go for the coupe if they were both out, and I had the cash. Neither condition is met right now, though.

I think I'd do the sedan in AWD Ti and then get a Quadrifoglio coupe!! Lol. They are that GOOD.

Well doing research on my future vehicle I came across this tidbit of info about using polymer in the turbo of the Alfa, due to power output on a small engine making them run hotter.

https://www.basf.com/us/en/company/n...US-17-049.html

Interesting stuff. Though 220C does not sound particularly hot for a turbocharger. I guess it depends where within the assembly you're looking. In the 4C turbo, exhaust gas inlet temps push 1000C (stock is something like 980C). How that translates to charged air temperature, I don't know.

I'm guessing the location of that part doesn't heat up as much as the exhaust inlet. 220°C in US, is 425°F. That does seem cool.

Re-reading it again the article talks about 220 operating temps on the cold air intake side, and another product on the hot side for which they do not quote a temperature. That number seems to be the Holy Grail for tuners to work with, and often not so easy to figure out what maximum temperatures at the turbo can be.

Me: So if we make this deal this morning? How long does it take to ship my car from Italy?

Dealer: I'm not going to lie to you. It can take up to 5 months to take delivery if you don't purchase one from our lot.

Me: Hold up... wait! 5 months??

Dealer: Yes sir but you'll have the car in the exact spec you want it.

Me: If I was buying the actual quadrifoglio? Maybe? A ti?
Hell to the know. I guess I'm going to have to go the national listings route till one comes up.

Dealer: the salesman pitch blah blah blah, it could be only 3 months. I'm telling you it can take 5 months delivery.

Me: And I thank you for not letting me go thru the aggravation. Ur selection is nothing I want n the state doesn't have many Ti's in the CO figuration I'm looking for. Let alone the color. Thank you for your time sir. If u come across what I'm looking for before I buy something else. Let me know

Rosso competizione/misano blue or trifecta white
Tan leather on white or red
Black leather on blue
Sport pkg exterior
Sport pkg interior
Biohazard wheels
Panoramic sunroof
All Tech options
HK soundsystem.

Things ship from Italy when they feel like getting shipped.....just ask any Ducati or Aprilia owner......

That's ridiculous!!! Not a way to be successful in America.

Both comments are exactly true.

But I did warn you about Alfa corporate in an earlier post.

Many in the US bought their 4C's from across the country and had them shipped, because either their dealership was price gouging or there was absolutely no telling if and when orders could be placed, or when the product would arrive. And no dealer swapping mechanism. Finding their own car was the only alternative.

I'm being 100% serious when I tell you that dealerships had no idea if their orders were accepted, whether they could order certain option combinations successfully, when the car might go into production, or when it might arrive. They received confirmation that the car had been produced when they received a call from the delivery truck driver that he was an hour away from the dealership. That's improved in the past year, but still is far from perfect.

It appears to be ingrained in Italian corporate culture - cars, bikes, guns, marble, heavy equipment parts are all the same. You can bitch about it, accept it, or work around it. But you won't change it.

Go nationwide and find the exact car you want, then get it. Life's too short to not drive an Alfa Romeo. (I hope that doesn't get me banned on a Nissan board!)

I will be asking you this question again soon. Lol.

https://carbuzz.com/news/alfa-romeo-...he-ferrari-488

Looks like this car will be announced next month. If offered with the standard quadrifoglio engine? I may jump ship? Seems so far the quad is doing well. Not too many problems. But the magic number is 4 years with foreign cars. Every time I see a Giulia, I regret getting cold feet. The best saloon I've ever driven. Awesome car!!

Seen a Giulia in red the other day. It's a color to die for. :yum: It just pops at you. :yum:

theres been a lot popping up by me. plus the Alfa dealer is right down from where i work.

Patience Grasshopper........all Italian machines have problems, although they are nice and beautiful when they work.....

I came up on one of these recently in a favorite driving area.
Absolutely gorgeous car.

He tried but, he couldn't lose me in the twisties. When we finally arrived at our destination, he was quite impressed with the way the Z held it's own...so was I:tup:

I will concede that he probably didn't know the road as well as I do:tup: