Gotta warn ya!

ImportConvert · 05-21-2015, 12:48 AM

I found a vehicle that was even more of a pain in the *** to keep on the road than my 370Z (although it never actually stranded me like my 370Z, which is worth noting...I was never late to work because of it.)

I was told my 2010 Grand Heep Cherokee with HEMI/QD II would be a never-ending failboat. I was told correct! So I wanted to just give ANYONE a heads up considering one...you've been warned! I did not heed it, lol, and I paid. I owned it for a whopping 1 year and 3 months before I dumped it. During that time...

-N23 disabled my 4WD low
-Transmission leaked and was taken out, seal replaced, and still leaked.
-Sunroof guide broke
-Both front control arm bushings rotted out and had to be replaced
-Random body parts fell or flopped loose when I took it through touchless carwash
-Satellite radio randomly lost signal
-Transmission had very annoying tq converter shudder
-Steering always felt like the diff was locking up on tight corners like in a parking lot
-Water pump went bad (again...it was changed 8K miles before I bought it...)
-Annoying whining (very loud, as in, wake the neighbors) when I cranked it on cold days, even after replacing the belt.
-Randomly stalled once, and would run rough at idle sometimes. New plugs, PCV, air filter, etc. Nothing helped.
-Random SES light was the last straw, and I traded it in rather than chase that down and take the transmission out AGAIN!

Anyway, I traded it for a pre-owned 2015 Mazda CX-5 2.5L AWD. Why? Because I live in the mountains and it snows here, and the Mazda was cheap, had great reliability reviews, and gets 30mpg on the highway, 24 around town, and gives me the utility that I have come to love in an SUV. Building my first house in the next year or two, Debt/Income ratio is first and foremost in my mind, and AWD and ground-clearance of an SUV are mandatory.

Zbrah · 05-21-2015, 02:35 AM

Noted. Thanks for the heads up!

6spd · 05-21-2015, 07:24 AM

If you look up Dodge in the dictionary, it means to avoid. Remember that lol

ImportConvert · 05-21-2015, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 6spd

If you look up Dodge in the dictionary, it means to avoid. Remember that lol

Well, some people have to touch the stove...

BlackZeda · 05-21-2015, 09:25 AM

I like to rent Jeeps (Wranglers) when I visit Moab or a similiar off-road destination. Everytime I entertain the the idea of buying a Jeep, I quickly regain my sanity and reject it almost immediately. Now renting one is a whole other story....it just doesn't get much better when you are risking another person's Jeep, freeing you from any inhibitions that may be holding you back from having off-road fun because you are afraid of damaging your own vehicle.

In that regard, I love Jeeps!

BTW, the guy that I rent Jeeps from has recommended to never buy a Jeep

nomodsjk · 05-21-2015, 10:55 AM

Well f#ck I really wanted one of these things for the the wife's new DD but I will take your advice good sir.... Have you heard anything about it being fixed in later models or are they all pretty much junk?

6spd · 05-21-2015, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Well, some people have to touch the stove...

kenchan · 05-21-2015, 11:41 AM

op - anything u touch dies..?

TerribleONE · 05-21-2015, 11:47 AM

Maybe you should just start using public transportation...

ImportConvert · 05-21-2015, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nomodsjk

Well f#ck I really wanted one of these things for the the wife's new DD but I will take your advice good sir.... Have you heard anything about it being fixed in later models or are they all pretty much junk?

They all suck balls. They are all pieces of ****. Jeep owners are more of a battered-wife support group than an auto enthusiast club.

"It has character"
"It's rewarding to maintain"

on and on and on. **** that noise.

Just look at Consumer Reports, TrueDelta, etc.

ImportConvert · 05-21-2015, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

op - anything u touch dies..?

My issue has been buying vehicles from known "problem companies" (Nissan, Chrysler, Infiniti, etc.) and expecting them to be reliable vehicles.

Quote:

Perennial best-in-reliability front-runners Toyota, Mazda and Honda, finished right behind top-rated Lexus in Consumer Reports’ overall brand rankings in that order. Subaru, Scion and Kia helped Asian brands take seven of the top 10 spots. With the exception of Infiniti, most Japanese and Korean brands improved their reliability average score. Nissan continues to lag behind other Japanese brands with core models like the Altima, Pathfinder, and Sentra all scoring below average reliability.

http://pressroom.consumerreports.org.../my-entry.html

Well, screw that. I'm listening to what others already know, and just made a safe bet and went with Mazda. Basically, I'm buying known quality and expecting it to be so, instead of buying known "problems" and expecting them NOT to be so...I bet it works better for me!

JARblue · 05-21-2015, 12:52 PM

Sounds like a standard Jeep experience. My buddy's wife got stranded after her 2010 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8 threw a rod with ~2000 miles on the odometer

Zbrah · 05-21-2015, 12:56 PM

Hyundai and Kia ranked above Nissan and Infiniti

ImportConvert · 05-21-2015, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zbrah

Hyundai and Kia ranked above Nissan and Infiniti

This is in keeping with my personal experience. I went from the pan into the fire by dumping my POS 370Z for a Jeep, though, I can tell you that!

MMC Racing · 05-21-2015, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Anyway, I traded it for a pre-owned 2015 Mazda CX-5 2.5L AWD. Why? Because I live in the mountains and it snows here, and the Mazda was cheap, had great reliability reviews, and gets 30mpg on the highway, 24 around town, and gives me the utility that I have come to love in an SUV. Building my first house in the next year or two, Debt/Income ratio is first and foremost in my mind, and AWD and ground-clearance of an SUV are mandatory.

We had a 2014 CX-5 2.5L and really liked it. After adding an inexpensive Rockford 10" sub, prebuilt from them with amplifier, the stock stereo didn't sound 1/2 bad.

05-21-2015, 12:48 AM	#1 (permalink)
ImportConvert A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SWMO Posts: 4,454 Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve Rep Power: 7627	Gotta warn ya! I found a vehicle that was even more of a pain in the *** to keep on the road than my 370Z (although it never actually stranded me like my 370Z, which is worth noting...I was never late to work because of it.) I was told my 2010 Grand Heep Cherokee with HEMI/QD II would be a never-ending failboat. I was told correct! So I wanted to just give ANYONE a heads up considering one...you've been warned! I did not heed it, lol, and I paid. I owned it for a whopping 1 year and 3 months before I dumped it. During that time... -N23 disabled my 4WD low -Transmission leaked and was taken out, seal replaced, and still leaked. -Sunroof guide broke -Both front control arm bushings rotted out and had to be replaced -Random body parts fell or flopped loose when I took it through touchless carwash -Satellite radio randomly lost signal -Transmission had very annoying tq converter shudder -Steering always felt like the diff was locking up on tight corners like in a parking lot -Water pump went bad (again...it was changed 8K miles before I bought it...) -Annoying whining (very loud, as in, wake the neighbors) when I cranked it on cold days, even after replacing the belt. -Randomly stalled once, and would run rough at idle sometimes. New plugs, PCV, air filter, etc. Nothing helped. -Random SES light was the last straw, and I traded it in rather than chase that down and take the transmission out AGAIN! Anyway, I traded it for a pre-owned 2015 Mazda CX-5 2.5L AWD. Why? Because I live in the mountains and it snows here, and the Mazda was cheap, had great reliability reviews, and gets 30mpg on the highway, 24 around town, and gives me the utility that I have come to love in an SUV. Building my first house in the next year or two, Debt/Income ratio is first and foremost in my mind, and AWD and ground-clearance of an SUV are mandatory.

05-21-2015, 02:35 AM	#2 (permalink)
Zbrah A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: The370Z.com Posts: 4,956 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 5452	Noted. Thanks for the heads up! __________________

05-21-2015, 07:24 AM	#3 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	If you look up Dodge in the dictionary, it means to avoid. Remember that lol eastwest2300, David Parra, JARblue and 6 others like this. __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

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05-21-2015, 09:25 AM	#5 (permalink)
BlackZeda A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 1,109 Drives: 19 Audi TT RS Rep Power: 22	I like to rent Jeeps (Wranglers) when I visit Moab or a similiar off-road destination. Everytime I entertain the the idea of buying a Jeep, I quickly regain my sanity and reject it almost immediately. Now renting one is a whole other story....it just doesn't get much better when you are risking another person's Jeep, freeing you from any inhibitions that may be holding you back from having off-road fun because you are afraid of damaging your own vehicle. In that regard, I love Jeeps! BTW, the guy that I rent Jeeps from has recommended to never buy a Jeep

05-21-2015, 10:55 AM	#6 (permalink)
nomodsjk Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: martinsburg wv Posts: 2,073 Drives: 2011 370z MB/7at Rep Power: 19962	Well f#ck I really wanted one of these things for the the wife's new DD but I will take your advice good sir.... Have you heard anything about it being fixed in later models or are they all pretty much junk?

05-21-2015, 12:52 PM	#12 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	Sounds like a standard Jeep experience. My buddy's wife got stranded after her 2010 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8 threw a rod with ~2000 miles on the odometer __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

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Zbrah A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: The370Z.com Posts: 4,956 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 5452	Hyundai and Kia ranked above Nissan and Infiniti __________________

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