2016 Nissan Maxima
 

Thought?

2016 Nissan Maxima: A 4-Door Sports Car If Sports Cars Have FWD And CVTs

Nice seats. That is all.

Lmao, same thoughts as I sir

Not feeling it, front's a little much and the rear reminds me of the q50, it's bland.

I like the steering wheel.

Everything except the exterior is better about the new Maxima. The character line running off the front fender midway through the front door is a bit much. The rear tail lights could be more aggressive, they look too pedestrian. The V motion grill should stand for vomit. The blacked out C pillar makes it look like a saddle in the middle, not a very sporty look IMO. I do like the lights, edges of the front bumper, hood and the rear quarter panels. It looks like a Hyundai Accent took steroids, that's not a compliment.

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This was a real 4 door sports car with one of the first "ORIGINAL SPORT MODE" buttons and it actually worked. Not like those cheesy sport modes in the chrysler back then. It was fast, nimble and cornered like an RWD.

Yep, same here. Love that diamond stitching. Hyundai/Kia has been doing it for a couple years now. So damn...Bentley-ish.

This fkn thing.

I stopped reading when I got to "performance CVT" in the press release.

60% of the parts are new in the otherwise 25 year old VQ35.

It's still a FWD VQ with a CVT. Which means, they added splashes of Murano to an Altima and will price it as such.

No thanks. Apparently Nissan has never heard of a Subaru WRX STI, Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution, Audi S4, BMW M3... you know... REAL four door sports cars.

This bloated whale of a cash-in on the Altima parts bin is just more mediocrity from a company who turned from putting out true bang-for-the-buck cars that were always sporty to appliances designed by pencil-pushers.

This car pissed me off. Dumb. Altima with Bentley seats and a Hyundai front bumper with a rear quarter inspired by the Hunchback of Notre Dame.

BUT DAT HALF-ASSED FLOATING ROOF THO! 4DSC!

Best rant on this tiring forum in long time thank you sir!:tiphat::tiphat::tiphat:

And spot on btw!

I think it looks ok.

I don't think the exterior is ugly. But that steering wheel on the other hand :barf:

YOu know if the inside of that steering wheel were all red leather, you would like it!

It's not the leather I dislike. It's that gaping mouth at the bottom. With the speedo and tach looking like eyes, it makes the whole thing look like the face of idiot taffy-apple :ugh:

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I'm pretty much Nissan's target demographic for this car. I want a V6, somewhat sporty or at least sort of fun to drive, four-door car that I can use for long trips and other things where my 2nd car (the Z) don't work. Clearly I have some history/knowledge in terms of Nissan cars, a good dealer that I trust, etc.

And even with all those "ins" I would buy an Accord instead. :ugh2:

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This was funny.... lol

The maxima is a family car for aggressive women with a lead foot.

At least we know we are getting a flat bottom steering wheel in the Z35. The maxima is another car that gets Z parts bin aside from the juke.

Hmm.... I've seen that steering wheel somewhere before....


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A leather stitched dash in the next Z is a must.

Probably will be standard in the Z35 touring pkg?

I would think it'd be standard, but you never know. Oh and better "leather" than the thin paper stuff currently in our cars!

All i know is that CVT in the Maxima better have magical powers and unicorn blood for transmission fluid... Nissan should be upgrading it's 7at or giving us the old GT-R DCT for its sports cars in reality...:shakes head:

Nissan's CVT's are too unreliable across the board. To have SOOOOO many cars have trans go out at 40k miles should be a clear indication you have a bad product.

To be fair, I've owned two Maxima's, a 11' and a 14'. I've never had a problem with the CVT. CVT issues on 7th gen Maxima's are minimal. If you want to look at tranny issues, Ford, GM, Chrysler/Dodge (ZF 8 speed and 9 speed tranny's) over the past few years. The Max is one of the most reliable cars in Nissan's lineup, along with the Z, which may sound funny... But they are also the oldest. They've had plenty of time to fix most of the issues. Why the CSC issue still exists is beyond me.

Don't buy the Maxima if you're looking for what the Q50 already has. The Maxima has plenty of power, not very heavy, handles pretty damn well (you can get them with 19" Bridgestone RE50A's from the factory as a no cost option on the SV sport.), and has most meaningful bells and whistles. I'd recommend the Maxima all day. I challenge anyone to drive any midsize sedan back to back with the Maxima, it's the little things that make it better. Steering feel, turn in response, handling, material sound/ride quality (unless it's an SV sport, then it's sports car rough). I f'n love the current Max, even with it's CVT. Not gonna lie though, a good DCT or 7AT would be better, but because it doesn't have that doesn't make it a bad car.

Not defending the looks of the new Maxima, it's not that good looking, but I can guarantee that if it's on the same chassis as the current one, it's almost guaranteed to drive really damn good.

Let me be clear, I LOVE the way some CVTs drive, loved my wifes altima SR before it bit the dust, our next car will likely be a Juke Nismo RS CVT, and the thought of the new WRX with a CVT excited the crap out of me. I think the CVT hate is just a bandwagon thing. The one thing I can attest to from personal experience and professional experience is the unreliablility of the maxima, murano and altima CVT's. Not saying they can't be good, but the problem is alive and kicking and people need to be aware of it.

All im saying is the tranny is all wrong for its supposed philosophy and sporting intentions. Thats why i said that the car was made for aggressive women with a lead foot. I had a 3.5 altima se with a cvt n it was a great fast and fun car, but the cvt did kinda suck the essense out of it's sporting intentions. it is what it is..

Sounds like my Wife ;)

Well, that's one way to look at it.

On the other hand, look how easy it would be to steer with your ****? :icon17:

Makes me wonder what the new Z will look like (OMG Jesus help us), the current Maxima and 370Z shared a lot of similar styling cues. A similar interior will probably go into the new Z, the current Max and Z have a a very similar dash and steering wheel etc.

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The reason behind Nissan not fixing the CSC issue is a matter of lowest common denominator. You can bet that if the Z was a volume car like the Altima it would be a different story.

The CVT is less of an issue when mated to a 3.5 and more of an issue on its 2.5 counterpart, but they're still a crapshoot. I have owned CVT-driven Altima coupes without issue, but can tell you their 6MT counterparts are completely different vehicles.

Now to my point - you say why buy the Maxima if you're looking for what the Q50 already has, and I say why buy the Maxima when the 3.5 Altima exists? It's not $3,000 better looking (yep, subjective for some), it's not $5,000 better driving (slightly less subjective, but still subjective), and it doesn't carry $8,000 more tech in the car (not subjective at all).

Those numbers represent a ballpark of how much more it costs you to get into a Maxima with respect to looks (S trim over Altima 3.5 SL), handling characteristics (SV trim over Altima SL), and all the tech (Platinum or SL or whatever).

You're paying a lot more money for not a lot more car. The car makes little sense if you look at the big picture of things - the Altima has been nipping at the Maxima's heels since 2002, and this generation needed something crucial to truly set it apart from an optioned out Altima. Hell, the last generation needed something to truly set it apart, and while it is indeed a nice car, it failed.

It looks different. That's it. And that's not enough.

The only part of the argument I do agree with is the tech piece, only because the Altima received the new tech with the refresh. Lookswise, the Maxima has it in spades (even with the uglier one coming out soon). Looking at a comparison with the current Altima and Maxima, I'll list some improvements or things the Altima doesn't have that the Max does. Anything the Altima does better can be summed up in new nav ui and slightly larger rear seat.

Better power steering unit with more feedback and faster turning ratio. It also uses the Z steering wheel (which I like more than the Altima's)
Higher rated dampers, springs, front sway bar, front strut tower bar, and available rear seat brace.
Larger and wider wheels with optional Re50's. You can get the in dark metallic with the SV sport package (which I like)
Rear seats are buckets, not flat. The fronts are bolstered more on the sides, have a cooled driver seat and thigh support. The driver side also has seat memory.
Optional dual sun roof, a sunroof already comes standard.
rear trunk uses dampers to hold the lid, not some metal swing arm. Same with the hood.
Maxima comes with a 20 gallon tank, Altima only 18. Luxury cars generally come with big *** tanks. This is kinda moot as Altima mpg is better.
Maxima has 12.6" fr and 12.13" rear brakes, .9" and .63" larger than Altima's
The nav system is 7" compared to 5" on the Altima. It also supports DVD playback, Altima only does CD.
Aluminum door sills are standard.
Maxima comes with an available rear window power shade.
The trim offerings are of higher quality, especially the premiums Atlantic cherry wood trim.
Maxima also comes with available ground lighting.
That 20hp advantage helps the 100lbs weight difference.


There is value in the Maxima over the Altima. Yes, it's a cash cow for Nissan, and some of these options don't equal their actual value, but the fact that they aren't even offered in the Altima keeps the Maxima a few steps ahead of the Altima. Equal straight line speed and some leather doesn't mean one is a better value than the other because it's cheaper. Keep in mind, value is subjective as well.
I purchased my 14' SV sport Maxima for $34k. It stickered for $39k. Even if I was able to get a fully loaded Altima for $30,000, IMO, there is more than $4,000 in content that I am willing to pony up. I also bought this Nismo, so I would say that I'm inclined to pay a little more for the things I want. I'm not disagreeing with you RicerX, you have a point, I'm just sharing what the Maxima offers that you don't get in an Altima. The difference is in the details. See below below for reference.


Build Your Nissan Maxima | Select Model | Nissan USA

Versions - Build Your 2015 Altima | Nissan USA

And every other car you see is not a Max unlike the Altima, the Alti is the number 2 selling midsize and you can clearly see that on the streets. They are everywhere in large numbers! :tup:

Ground lighting can be had on most non eco nissans now.

Nissan brought one to Cars and Coffee here in Nashville area last weekend. Looks better in person than pics IMO. Has a real presence to it, and I thought the interior was exceptional. The quilted leather and stitched dash are nicely done.

$40K for a Maxima....*High pitched whistle*. Cars in general are expensive.

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saw a test maxima today overall i like it the back could of flowed better .. but hey the front gives me hope for the z36

It looks like Nissan stole the Kia Optima design... :ughdance:

/\ Yeah, especially that rear quarter panel design