Hyundai is now on the right track (maybe wrong model)

Firebase99 · 04-01-2015, 07:10 PM

I don't think, IMHO, anyone here has spent a decent time behind the wheel of a 3.8 Coupe. I traded a '13z for one. I've alwYs stated the Z is a better performer, sports car, but for the $, as a DD, the 3.8 SPANKS the Z. It's not quite as quick, but oh so close. The tranny, engine, chassis are on par with the Z. Handling suffers a bit due to weight, Z is better. Engine...down low the Z has it. Not by much. Up top hands down the 3.8. Interior and and tech, no contest, 3.8. I'm a Z guy through and through but the '13+ iteration of the coupe are really competitive at the price point. I drove a 13 3.8 before I bought the 13 370. I didn't drive it CORRECTLY. Not at all. I blame poor salesmanship on that. He didn't educate me on engine temp (huge factor- below 250 it's a dog!), no insight into paddle shifters, nothing. Really drive one and Id bet you stop bashing on it and saying other than SLIGHTLY better handling and off the line gut, "I wish my Z did this". Not bashing the Z, hell I've had lots of them but for the money as a DD, spend two hours driving a 3.8.

Davey · 04-01-2015, 07:39 PM

Yeah when I think of top end power... I think of Hyundai.

I think the Genesis is a decent looking car but in no way would I say the driving dynamics are on par with the 370Z, and neither has anyone else besides you, that I am aware of.

I do agree that for cruising long distances on the highway and putting around town, the Genesis would be the better buy.

6spd · 04-01-2015, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

there is a rear windshield on that car?

Cuz the power is so immense it smooshes you against the rear window and there is a wiper on the inside the car O_o

theDreamer · 04-02-2015, 12:44 PM

Hyundai Just Made Another Mid-Engined, Turbo'd Veloster With 300 HP

6spd · 04-02-2015, 01:19 PM

kinda love it...

Zbrah · 04-02-2015, 03:26 PM

Man, Hyundai is making all the right moves right now

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-02-2015, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99

I don't think, IMHO, anyone here has spent a decent time behind the wheel of a 3.8 Coupe. I traded a '13z for one. I've alwYs stated the Z is a better performer, sports car, but for the $, as a DD, the 3.8 SPANKS the Z. It's not quite as quick, but oh so close. The tranny, engine, chassis are on par with the Z. Handling suffers a bit due to weight, Z is better. Engine...down low the Z has it. Not by much. Up top hands down the 3.8. Interior and and tech, no contest, 3.8. I'm a Z guy through and through but the '13+ iteration of the coupe are really competitive at the price point. I drove a 13 3.8 before I bought the 13 370. I didn't drive it CORRECTLY. Not at all. I blame poor salesmanship on that. He didn't educate me on engine temp (huge factor- below 250 it's a dog!), no insight into paddle shifters, nothing. Really drive one and Id bet you stop bashing on it and saying other than SLIGHTLY better handling and off the line gut, "I wish my Z did this". Not bashing the Z, hell I've had lots of them but for the money as a DD, spend two hours driving a 3.8.

WRONG!!!!! I have!!

I like the genny. But i can't agree on the tranny comment.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-02-2015, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by zbrah

man, hyundai is making all the right moves right now

dope!!!!!

Firebase99 · 04-02-2015, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

WRONG!!!!! I have!!

I like the genny. But i can't agree on the tranny comment.

So have I. I dont think the Z 6speed is any better than the 3.8. And the 8 speed auto like I have is better, IMO, than the auto Z. If I had deeper pockets Id have kept my 6 speed sport for track duty and still bought the 3.8 for my grueling, traffic sick, South Florida as a DD.

6spd · 04-02-2015, 05:10 PM

When I had the auto Z, I hated that you either had to shift when it wanted you to shift or face the BANG every time. F that, dumped it quick.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-02-2015, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 6spd

When I had the auto Z, I hated that you either had to shift when it wanted you to shift or face the BANG every time. F that, dumped it quick.

HUH??????? I have an auto Z. In paddle mode it acts as a manual. If you don't shift? It bounces off the redline like crazy till you upshift. And DRM auto blips the throttle for Heal, toe effect. The Z is one of the best slushboxes out there, and when it came out, it was the best.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-02-2015, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99

So have I. I dont think the Z 6speed is any better than the 3.8. And the 8 speed auto like I have is better, IMO, than the auto Z. If I had deeper pockets Id have kept my 6 speed sport for track duty and still bought the 3.8 for my grueling, traffic sick, South Florida as a DD.

The 8 speed has DRM?

6spd · 04-03-2015, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

HUH??????? I have an auto Z. In paddle mode it acts as a manual. If you don't shift? It bounces off the redline like crazy till you upshift. And DRM auto blips the throttle for Heal, toe effect. The Z is one of the best slushboxes out there, and when it came out, it was the best.

I mean that it has, in a sense, a predetermined shift pattern, where 1st gear is short, 2nd gear is fine, third gear drags out to long into to high an RPM, and fourth gear and up are fine. What I meant was when I drove with the paddles, unless I shifted at these same points, it was a very harsh shift. It supposedly has adaptive shift such and such, but I never felt like that was the case. IDK what to say about it honestly

, but it did feel quite a bit faster than the manual.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-03-2015, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 6spd

I mean that it has, in a sense, a predetermined shift pattern, where 1st gear is short, 2nd gear is fine, third gear drags out to long into to high an RPM, and fourth gear and up are fine. What I meant was when I drove with the paddles, unless I shifted at these same points, it was a very harsh shift. It supposedly has adaptive shift such and such, but I never felt like that was the case. IDK what to say about it honestly

, but it did feel quite a bit faster than the manual.

If you leave it in D, just stay using paddles all day.

It takes about 500 miles for ASC to really understand your inputs

6spd · 04-03-2015, 02:53 PM

Mine must of been a bad apple, it did breakdown on me, the trans that is, at Homestead-Miami, so that's probably the case.

04-02-2015, 12:44 PM	#19 (permalink)
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6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	When I had the auto Z, I hated that you either had to shift when it wanted you to shift or face the BANG every time. F that, dumped it quick. __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

04-03-2015, 02:53 PM	#30 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	Mine must of been a bad apple, it did breakdown on me, the trans that is, at Homestead-Miami, so that's probably the case. __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

04-01-2015, 07:10 PM	#16 (permalink)
Firebase99 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: fl Posts: 1,372 Drives: 14 3.8 Gen Coupe GT Rep Power: 14034	I don't think, IMHO, anyone here has spent a decent time behind the wheel of a 3.8 Coupe. I traded a '13z for one. I've alwYs stated the Z is a better performer, sports car, but for the $, as a DD, the 3.8 SPANKS the Z. It's not quite as quick, but oh so close. The tranny, engine, chassis are on par with the Z. Handling suffers a bit due to weight, Z is better. Engine...down low the Z has it. Not by much. Up top hands down the 3.8. Interior and and tech, no contest, 3.8. I'm a Z guy through and through but the '13+ iteration of the coupe are really competitive at the price point. I drove a 13 3.8 before I bought the 13 370. I didn't drive it CORRECTLY. Not at all. I blame poor salesmanship on that. He didn't educate me on engine temp (huge factor- below 250 it's a dog!), no insight into paddle shifters, nothing. Really drive one and Id bet you stop bashing on it and saying other than SLIGHTLY better handling and off the line gut, "I wish my Z did this". Not bashing the Z, hell I've had lots of them but for the money as a DD, spend two hours driving a 3.8.

04-01-2015, 07:39 PM	#17 (permalink)
Davey A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 3,766 Drives: '15 NISMO 6MT Rep Power: 117171	Yeah when I think of top end power... I think of Hyundai. I think the Genesis is a decent looking car but in no way would I say the driving dynamics are on par with the 370Z, and neither has anyone else besides you, that I am aware of. I do agree that for cruising long distances on the highway and putting around town, the Genesis would be the better buy.

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