Assembly Bill No. AB 1824 - No Loud Cars Law

[Bay Area Z]

For us California folk,

Assembly Bill No. AB-1824 (Section 4) is looking to pass the following for 2019:

(4) .. Existing law requires every motor vehicle subject to registration to be equipped with an adequate muffler in constant operation and properly maintained to prevent any excessive or unusual noise and prohibits a muffler or exhaust system from being equipped with a cutout, bypass, or similar device. Existing law further prohibits the modification of an exhaust system of a motor vehicle in a manner that will amplify or increase the noise emitted by the motor of the vehicle so that the vehicle exceeds existing noise limits. This bill would include, among those conditions that are disqualifying, a violation of the above-described requirements related to mufflers and exhaust systems.

There is a petition against this law here: https://www.change.org/p/jay-obernol...-in-california

Save your exhaust!

[CRiZO]

That's all already illegal in California.

Looking at the actual full text, it looks like they can't just give you a fix-it ticket anymore.

It's not making legal exhausts illegal. Like literally nothing will change for you.

(4) Existing law provides that whenever any person is arrested for certain offenses, including, among other things, an infraction involving vehicle equipment, the arresting officer is required to permit the arrested person to execute a notice, prepared by the officer in triplicate, containing a promise to correct the violation and to deliver proof of correction to the issuing agency, unless the arresting officer finds that a disqualifying condition exists.
Existing law requires every motor vehicle subject to registration to be equipped with an adequate muffler in constant operation and properly maintained to prevent any excessive or unusual noise and prohibits a muffler or exhaust system from being equipped with a cutout, bypass, or similar device. Existing law further prohibits the modification of an exhaust system of a motor vehicle in a manner that will amplify or increase the noise emitted by the motor of the vehicle so that the vehicle exceeds existing noise limits.
This bill would include, among those conditions that are disqualifying, a violation of the above-described requirements related to mufflers and exhaust systems.

[redondoaveb]

Originally Posted by Bay Area Z

For us California folk,

Assembly Bill No. AB-1824 (Section 4) is looking to pass the following for 2019:

(4) .. Existing law requires every motor vehicle subject to registration to be equipped with an adequate muffler in constant operation and properly maintained to prevent any excessive or unusual noise and prohibits a muffler or exhaust system from being equipped with a cutout, bypass, or similar device. Existing law further prohibits the modification of an exhaust system of a motor vehicle in a manner that will amplify or increase the noise emitted by the motor of the vehicle so that the vehicle exceeds existing noise limits. This bill would include, among those conditions that are disqualifying, a violation of the above-described requirements related to mufflers and exhaust systems.

There is a petition against this law here: https://www.change.org/p/jay-obernol...-in-california

Save your exhaust!

Well, I'm screwed! 😁

[xoxOnaisa]

In Orange County, there are neighborhoods that have signs posted saying no loud vehicles and exhaust, and they will fine you. I believe this is near the Fashion Island in Newport Beach... but there are lot of neighborhoods in So.Cal that are like this with signs posted banning loud vehicles.

[wideglideleon]

F#@k California they have more laws then common sense. Who would want to live there over taxed, over billed and too many ridiculous laws, fires floods and riots, sheez , what a place.

[CRiZO]

Originally Posted by wideglideleon

F#@k California they have more laws then common sense. Who would want to live there over taxed, over billed and too many ridiculous laws, fires floods and riots, sheez , what a place.

Here's Arizona:

28-955. Mufflers; noise and air pollution prevention; emissions control devices; civil penalty; exception

A. A motor vehicle shall be equipped at all times with a muffler that is in good working order and that is in constant operation to prevent excessive or unusual noise.

B. A person shall not use a muffler cutout, bypass or similar device on a motor vehicle on a highway.

C. The engine and power mechanism of a motor vehicle shall be equipped and adjusted to prevent the escape of excessive fumes or smoke.

D. Beginning with motor vehicles and motor vehicle engines of the 1968 model year, motor vehicles and motor vehicle engines shall be equipped with emissions control devices that meet the standards established by the director of environmental quality.

E. A person who violates this section is subject to a civil penalty of at least one hundred dollars.

F. This section does not apply to an electrically powered motor vehicle.

[xoxOnaisa]

Originally Posted by CRiZO

Here's Arizona:

Daamnnnn smog exemption applies only pre-1967!!! That sucks for Arizona....and I used to bitch about Cali smog laws....

[Hotrodz]

Originally Posted by xoxOnaisa

Daamnnnn smog exemption applies only pre-1967!!! That sucks for Arizona....and I used to bitch about Cali smog laws....

LOL, you got to really being stupid to get written for that violation here in AZ. It is not enforced....yet!

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[xoxOnaisa]

Originally Posted by Hotrodz

LOL, you got to really being stupid to get written for that violation here in AZ. It is not enforced....yet!

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You don't get written up here for smog exemption. You either don't get your vehicle registered for failing smog or you pay $3-600 for a "special smog" (IF and only IF you have the special connections for a "special smog"...)

[old guy]

Isn't California going to out law the internal combustion engine in 2025 or something ?

[redondoaveb]

Originally Posted by old guy

Isn't California going to out law the internal combustion engine in 2025 or something ?

They'll have to pry my hands off the steering wheel. Wait, make that, they'll have to pry my one hand off the steering wheel, my other hand will be on my gun, the one that they already outlawed.

[Bay Area Z]

Just posted.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BsRyOeoFNfB/?hl=en

[CRiZO]

Jesus christ, a $1000 fine?

I wonder what exhaust it is. I believe California uses a specific decibel limitation, it's not up to the officers discretion, and it's not just "anything aftermarket".

*edit* Looked it up, it's 95 dBa.

Per a Z shootout, here are the levels of a few I found from the 350Z.

First number is @ idle, second @ 3K rpm, tested at 20 feet back. California tests at 50 feet back.

OEM: 81db / 89db
Borla: 88db / 92db
NISMO: 84db / 95db
Stillen: 84db / 93db
Injen: 83 db/ 99db
5Zigen: 87db / 105db

They should absolutely fight that if they aren't running test pipes or something.

*double edit*

He's running a Tomei and probably a test pipe (even race tracks have lower decibel limits), and posts street racing in traffic on his Instagram. He also wrecked a previous Z due to a "truck that came out of nowhere". I'd argue the guy was driving like a jackass and gave the cop cause.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BepGSWLHgwx/?hl=en

[Bay Area Z]

Originally Posted by CRiZO

Jesus christ, a $1000 fine?

I wonder what exhaust it is. I believe California uses a specific decibel limitation, it's not up to the officers discretion, and it's not just "anything aftermarket".

*edit* Looked it up, it's 95 dBa.

Per a Z shootout, here are the levels of a few I found from the 350Z.

First number is @ idle, second @ 3K rpm, tested at 20 feet back. California tests at 50 feet back.

OEM: 81db / 89db
Borla: 88db / 92db
NISMO: 84db / 95db
Stillen: 84db / 93db
Injen: 83 db/ 99db
5Zigen: 87db / 105db

They should absolutely fight that if they aren't running test pipes or something.

*double edit*

He's running a Tomei and probably a test pipe (even race tracks have lower decibel limits), and posts street racing in traffic on his Instagram. He also wrecked a previous Z due to a "truck that came out of nowhere". I'd argue the guy was driving like a jackass and gave the cop cause.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BepGSWLHgwx/?hl=en

Good info

[axmea?]

Initial plans are to go and observe how testing is actually done. One is about 5 miles where I work. My argument above may be insufficient. Curious if my set up will measure 95 db at 50 ft so I will go and have a state referee measure as is. Not sure how much it'll cost me. If under I'm good and will fight it to void the fine. Ticket was issued in Nov of 2018 so it is not 1k. If over 95 I will fix to get it under 95 and certified.