Bikers Attack Driver After Accident: Caught on Tape

andre12031948 · 10-02-2013, 12:56 PM

I would stay still. Not press the gas to run over a biker, his bike & keep going. Surely he felt his front end go up after the front wheels went on top & over the bike. That's hit, run over & run in my book.

Were the bikers wearing Hell's Angels or Son's of Anarchy jackets?????

Chuck33079 · 10-02-2013, 12:57 PM

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LOL!!! I'd be down.

I think if we want to place bets, it would have to be as a field, like if the driver gets off criminally, but sued civilly, beer gets awarded to...

Oh, he's getting sued. His family pretty much said that already. The outcome of the civil case is what's in question. Maybe they can win enough money to replace Squidward's bike with a quad.

Red__Zed · 10-02-2013, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

LOL!!! I'd be down.

I think if we want to place bets, it would have to be as a field, like if the driver gets off criminally, but sued civilly, beer gets awarded to...

I REALLY hope that at the end of all this, we acknowledge that we don't know everything, we acknowledge other peoples' opinions, and no hard feeling either way

I'll buy you guys a beer regardless (unless you prefer a Smirnoff...)

Chuck33079 · 10-02-2013, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by andre12031948

I would stay still. Not press the gas to run over a biker, his bike & keep going. Surely he felt his front end go up after the front wheels went on top & over the bike. That's hit, run over & run in my book.

You didn't read the rest of the thread, did you? He didn't just run over a biker out of the blue.

KN21283 · 10-02-2013, 01:00 PM

The driver of RR Lien Founded an E-Commerce Powerhouse Lien is one of the founders of the e-commerce firm Skrill.com. The London-based company was founded in 2007 and has assets of nearly $50 million, according Due Dil.

Read more at: Alexian Lien, Road Rage Victim: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know | HEAVY

andre12031948 · 10-02-2013, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

You didn't read the rest of the thread, did you? He didn't just run over a biker out of the blue.

Someone made a sudden stop/slowed down in front of him? Someone knocked on his door? In my opinion, he was going too fast considering there were so many bikes around him. Then he said, "I'll show them!" My opinion

FairladyZ10PG · 10-02-2013, 01:06 PM

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It depends on what specifically happened, but I would not use deadly force in a situation where there was no other way to escape.

Backing up a bit, I would not be in that situation. I avoid states that do not allow for full use of a self-defense, so I would likely not be driving in NY in the first place.

If I came across a group of bikers taking up two lanes, I would move over to the right lane...because squids like that generally signal trouble. Legally not required, but the smart way to avoid conflict. If the accident was unavoidable and all that, I'd pull over and call the cops with the passenger taking a video recording in case things got messy.

That's smart. However, not everyone can stay as calm and collected when faced with such situation. I'm assuming this guy panicked and made what he believed to be the best possible decision at the time. He may or may not regret the decision to run over the bikers and do not know if he would do the same thing if it happened all over again. I guess what I'm trying to say is that not everyone handles pressured situations the same way. I don't know how the "Law" would handle this one but I'm behind the RR driver from what I have seen thus far.

Chuck33079 · 10-02-2013, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by andre12031948

Someone made a sudden stop/slowed down in front of him? Someone knocked on his door? In my opinion, he was going too fast considering there were so many bikes around him. Then he said, "I'll show them!" My opinion

Go back and read the thread and the linked articles, then come back. Your opinion is way off base.

Red__Zed · 10-02-2013, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by FairladyZ10PG

That's smart. However, not everyone can stay as calm and collected when faced with such situation. I'm assuming this guy panicked and made what he believed to be the best possible decision at the time. He may or may not regret the decision to run over the bikers and do not know if he would do the same thing if it happened all over again. I guess what I'm trying to say is that not everyone handles pressured situations the same way. I don't know how the "Law" would handle this one but I'm behind the RR driver from what I have seen thus far.

I'm not making any personal judgment against anyone, just trying to bring to light the legal implications of these decisions.

andre12031948 · 10-02-2013, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FairladyZ10PG

That's smart. However, not everyone can stay as calm and collected when faced with such situation. I'm assuming this guy panicked and made what he believed to be the best possible decision at the time. He may or may not regret the decision to run over the bikers and do not know if he would do the same thing if it happened all over again. I guess what I'm trying to say is that not everyone handles pressured situations the same way. I don't know how the "Law" would handle this one but I'm behind the RR driver from what I have seen thus far.

I think he's the type that don't like to take chit, not was afraid. That sort of bad action that the bikers did has been experienced by most of us. We would not run someone that's in front of us over with front & rear wheels & keep going. Were shots fired at the SUV???

Cmike2780 · 10-02-2013, 01:12 PM

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Someone made a sudden stop/slowed down in front of him? Someone knocked on his door? In my opinion, he was going too fast considering there were so many bikes around him. Then he said, "I'll show them!" My opinion

That's a lot of blanks you just filled.

Chuck33079 · 10-02-2013, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by andre12031948

I think he's the type that don't like to take chit, not was afraid. That sort of bad action that the bikers did has been experienced by most of us. We would not run someone that's in front of us over with front & rear wheels & keep going. Were shots fired at the SUV???

You're making a whole lot of off-base assumptions here.

Cmike2780 · 10-02-2013, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by andre12031948

I think he's the type that don't like to take chit, not was afraid. That sort of bad action that the bikers did has been experienced by most of us. We would not run someone that's in front of us over with front & rear wheels & keep going. Were shots fired at the SUV???

You should really read the full story and watch the videos.

Chuck33079 · 10-02-2013, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

You should really read the full story and watch the videos.

It's like he's commenting on a completely different story.

andre12031948 · 10-02-2013, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

That's a lot of blanks you just filled.

Just my opinion. We all know, should know the difference between a "bike gang" and a bunch of wise guys riding ricer bikes. Is he (driver)a head of some corporation? If he is, he knows the difference & would not have acted this way if there was a REAL dangerous looking gang around him.

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andre12031948 Banned Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: monticello new york 127 Posts: 1,095 Drives: 08 350z black 6m/t Rep Power: 0	if I'm in the middle of a bunch of bikers I would stay still. Not press the gas to run over a biker, his bike & keep going. Surely he felt his front end go up after the front wheels went on top & over the bike. That's hit, run over & run in my book. Were the bikers wearing Hell's Angels or Son's of Anarchy jackets?????

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KN21283 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Nyc Posts: 312 Drives: Pw Rep Power: 14	The driver of RR Lien Founded an E-Commerce Powerhouse Lien is one of the founders of the e-commerce firm Skrill.com. The London-based company was founded in 2007 and has assets of nearly $50 million, according Due Dil. Read more at: Alexian Lien, Road Rage Victim: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know \| HEAVY