Bikers Attack Driver After Accident: Caught on Tape

DEpointfive0 · 10-02-2013, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Lothario

https://www.facebook.com/teamrangerover

Beautiful, I will be joining immediately

SouthArk370Z · 10-02-2013, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Biker Speaks Out on Biker - SUV Incident in NYC | RTM - RightThisMinute

"So we're actually obeying the law." ROFLMAO. How can one NOT believe everything that guy says.

Chuck33079 · 10-02-2013, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

"So we're actually obeying the law." ROFLMAO. How can one NOT believe everything that guy says.

Especially when the entire group ride was unauthorized and illegal. He must have meant they were obeying the speed limit, not obeying the law. And considering how much of the encounter the bikers filmed when it showed their group in a bad light, nobody happened to film the moment that might show some kind of fault from the other driver? Not that I think cutting someone off deserves this, I just think it's funny that's the one part they didn't record.

Cmike2780 · 10-02-2013, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Criminal:
Reasonable doubt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Civil:
Legal burden of proof - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Meaningless. I'm not a lawyer or detective nor claim to be one. It's just my own opinion and you're free to come up with your own. It will be up to a jury to decide. There are a ton of videos of the incident we haven't seen including what happens after the camera cuts out. Correct me if I'm wrong, but vigilante justice on the guy in the Range Rover is hardly lawful either.

DEpointfive0 · 10-02-2013, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Especially when the entire group ride was unauthorized and illegal. He must have meant they were obeying the speed limit, not obeying the law.

Mhmmmm... Lol

I wish they went back and said... So... Those videos of you guys running a red light... Those were "legal", you guys were acting as the police, right?

Lothario · 10-02-2013, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

because in my eyes, that biker's head should've been under a Michelin.

Continentals.... lol

Chuck33079 · 10-02-2013, 10:53 AM

I think we've finally found something nice to say about run-flats

Red__Zed · 10-02-2013, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

There's no doubt he'll be civilly sued by the paralyzed rider. I hope they cram that lawsuit back down Captain Cripplevan's throat, because if you're in a group of people doing stupid/illegal ****, you don't get to complain when you become collateral damage.

That flies in the face of freedom of association.

GBA does not exist in US law (except in limited cases such as in medical care)

DEpointfive0 · 10-02-2013, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

Meaningless. I'm not a lawyer or detective nor claim to be one. It's just my own opinion and you're free to come up with your own. It will be up to a jury to decide. There are a ton of videos of the incident we haven't seen including what happens after the camera cuts out. Correct me if I'm wrong, but vigilante justice on the guy in the Range Rover is hardly lawful either.

Honestly, in a respectful way, I'd like to disagree, if YOU were in the RR, let's even say without your wife and kid. And you felt your life was being threatened because these guys swarmed you and were hitting your car and trying to open the door...
Wouldn't you do the same? Without general regard for maybe hitting an "innocent" biker?

Or would you just sit there and catch the initial beating?

DEpointfive0 · 10-02-2013, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Lothario

Continentals.... lol

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

I think we've finally found something nice to say about run-flats

LMAO!

And are we sure that RR's come with runflats? My uncle' sand cousin's both have a spare tire and it doesn't feel too harsh of a ride to be honest

Chuck33079 · 10-02-2013, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

LMAO!

And are we sure that RR's come with runflats? My uncle' sand cousin's both have a spare tire and it doesn't feel too harsh of a ride to be honest

Other than the fact he drove for quite a while on a slashed tire, no.

Red__Zed · 10-02-2013, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

Meaningless. I'm not a lawyer or detective nor claim to be one. It's just my own opinion and you're free to come up with your own. It will be up to a jury to decide. There are a ton of videos of the incident we haven't seen including what happens after the camera cuts out. Correct me if I'm wrong, but vigilante justice on the guy in the Range Rover is hardly lawful either.

There's zero evidence of when or how the tires got slashed.

Taking down the RR guy would generally be disallowed, although the fact that he hit and run complicates things, as most states enforce as a felony.

Fleeing felon rule - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Coupled with the belief of observed attempted murder/manslaughter, you could probably make a good case for the chase/apprehension. If the driver was knifed as he claimed, things get tougher for the biker responsible, as well as if there's any evidence pointing to needless beating, etc. The fact that he's alive and was released from the hospital in ~2 hrs indicates that there was probably not much gratuitous beating.

Future videos could tell a lot.

SouthArk370Z · 10-02-2013, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

That flies in the face of freedom of association.

GBA does not exist in US law (except in limited cases such as in medical care)

It goes way beyond association. It was active participation in reckless behaviors that endangered others. Apparently you haven't seen the videos from earlier in the day when the riders were doing wheelies in heavy traffic and veering over into oncoming traffic. I'm assuming (not a legal opinion) they didn't stop when they got near the RR. When you do dangerous ****, you sometimes get hurt. Ie, if you fuque with the bull, you get the horn.

DEpointfive0 · 10-02-2013, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Other than the fact he drove for quite a while on a slashed tire, no.

I think Range Rover and Continental should use this as a commercial.
Like a Chevy "Like a Rock" commercial, mixed with a bit of Top Gear

Chuck33079 · 10-02-2013, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

It goes way beyond association. It was active participation in reckless behaviors that endangered others. Apparently you haven't seen the videos from earlier in the day when the riders were doing wheelies in heavy traffic and veering over into oncoming traffic. I'm assuming (not a legal opinion) they didn't stop when they got near the RR. When you do dangerous ****, you sometimes get hurt. Ie, if you fuque with the bull, you get the horn.

Exactly. And legally, he shouldn't have been there anyway since he didn't have a license.

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