Bikers Attack Driver After Accident: Caught on Tape

Cmike2780 · 10-04-2013, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

The biker just justified every single stereotype. Thieving drug dealing dirtbag ends up a parapalegic. Oh well. Luckily, his spine was crushed so he can't procreate.

...guess he really is spineless now.

Chuck33079 · 10-04-2013, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

...guess he really is spineless now.

Maybe we've got this all wrong. He was trying to help. He saw something stuck in the undercarriage of the Range Rover and dove in to get it out. It's a national tragedy for sure.

KN21283 · 10-04-2013, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

...guess he really is spineless now.

Should've reversed and finished him. He would've been better off

jcosta79 · 10-04-2013, 02:02 PM

Interesting frame by frame examination of the attack on the Range Rover:

The Jawa Report: Bikers Versus SUV

jcosta79 · 10-04-2013, 03:02 PM

Interesting comment from the Facebook page:

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As a trucker that would deliver in north jersey and New York I am familiar with these groups. I can hopefully clarify a few things. First the initial "accident" is part of a game they play. They ride in a huge group and will operate together to slow down traffic.

Next they pick out high end vehicles targeting people with families in them, the targets will usually be white or Asian. Then one of the riders will do a "brake check" and stop suddenly in front of the target vehicle causing a minor bump. In some cases they will just roll back into their target vehicle. They will then mob the vehicle demanding money and or begin attacking the person inside. It is their practice to also slash the tires to prevent the vehicle from escaping.

Truckers are well aware of them and are advised not to stop. You can clearly see in the video how they are well practiced in this style of attack. The police in NY have backed off them after an officer ran one down using his vehicle a few months back. The video was all over the net so I advise you to check it out. These "bikers" ride dirt bikes and sport bikes very few of which are street legal and even fewer have plates. They run red lights, stop signs, and have no regard for the law.

If you are ever in this situation do not stop, immediately call the police and do whatever you have to to keep them from boxing you in. NEVER leave the scene of an accident if you are not under direct threat!!! Only run if you have no other choice, and again immediately call the police.

This is not rare by any means, the only reason this incident got any attention is because of the helmet cam video being posted on the net. If you see anyone in this situation, call the police. Make no mistake confusing these punks with true bikers. You will rarely if ever see a member of these gangs on a Harley. Do not for a minute blame true bikers for this kind of behavior. Bikers like those involved in the 2 million Bikers to DC Rally are American Patriots and would be among the first to come to your aid.

A final note, always be aware of motorcycles and share the road. Check your mirrors and don't ride anyone's bumper, motorcycles have a much smaller profile then a car and are harder to see

Cmike2780 · 10-04-2013, 04:15 PM

It get's even more interesting......

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An off-duty, NYPD undercover officer was among the pack of motorcyclists who chased a Financial District family up the West Side Highway — and he stood by as the dad was hauled from his car and beaten, The Post has learned.

The unidentified narcotics officer only came forward Wednesday night, four days after the caught-on-video biker predation, and is described as a motorcycle hobbyist who rides with First Line Soldiers, a New Rochelle-based group that also counts several other cops among its members, a source said.

Internal Affairs is investigating whether those cops, too, were among the bikers, and whether any of them are also witnesses to the beating that left Internet exec Alexian Lien bleeding on the pavement as his wife and toddler daughter cowered inside their black Range Rover.

“It is does not appear that he got involved at the scene,” one law enforcement source said of the undercover.

“He didn’t want to blow his cover” as an undercover involved in life-threatening duties, the source said.

The undercover has now lawyered up, the source added.

Meanwhile, sources said that cops have developed new photographic evidence showing Lien was physically attacked by as many as five bikers.

None of those bikers are under arrest six days after the incident and only one has been identified by name, one source said.

There is as yet no evidence that suspect biker Reginald Chance, 38, of Brooklyn — depicted in video smashing using his chrome-colored helmet to bash in Lien’s driver’s side window — was among those who beat or slashed Lien, a source said.

Chance, who has also lawyered up, still faces possible charges of gang assault, a source said.

The investigation into the incident is amping up Friday, with prosecutors set to re-interview the couple this afternoon.

http://nypost.com/2013/10/04/underco...kers-beat-dad/

enkei2k · 10-04-2013, 04:32 PM

Serious question:

For the guy that was clearly caught smashing the driver side window, why does he need to lawyer up?

jcosta79 · 10-04-2013, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

It get's even more interesting......

Can you post the link to the story? Thanks.

Redglare · 10-04-2013, 06:57 PM

I read the entire 27 pages of this thread and would like to add my .02 cents;

Red_zed made a lot of valid points, and even though initially it may seem as he is siding with the bikers, after reading the entire argument he is just playing the devils advocate and looking at the case objectively just like the DA will, or at least should.
No questions that the popularity of this case will have some influence on the events that will follow...

It seems like the consensus here is that the RR driver is justified in his actions, and I also concur with this.

A few things that I would like to point out;
1. You can obviously see in the original video 12+ other go-pro's and other cameras on the helmets, it is ironic that all of the cameras do not have the entire footage or how this was initiated.
2. The fact that the OP (biker who posted the video) took down all 7 of the videos of the same gang behaving recklessly on that same day is also another questionable move.
3. 911 call evidence with the RR driver being directed by dispatch to get of the highway to the nearest police station.

just like Red_zed say I would do my best to not get caught in a similar situation, but life happens and some things we can not control.
My only option would be to defend myself and my family, I would also drop the hammer on the bikers in front of me.

cossie1600 · 10-04-2013, 08:04 PM

I mean what is a better vehicle than the legendary range rover for this type of situation. My rav4 would just get stuck spinning tires or scraping the bikes.

I like what the trucker said except when he preached about how great the Harley's are.

JARblue · 10-04-2013, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

I mean what is a better vehicle than the legendary range rover for this type of situation. My rav4 would just get stuck spinning tires or scraping the bikes.

I like what the trucker said except when he preached about how great the Harley's are.

This:

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Redglare · 10-05-2013, 09:46 AM

*small update

After being chased by the bikers for nearly two miles, Lien was pulled out of his car and beaten when he got off the highway around West 178th Street and St. Nicholas Avenue, police said.

All along, police had been trying to find a man they believe may have saved Lien’s life. His picture was circulated around his Washington Heights neighborhood, CBS 2’s Jessica Schneider reported.

He’s since been identified as Sergio Consuegra and he spoke to CNN on Friday night. He said he was on his way to church when the Range Rover was surrounded by bikers.

“I stood between them and the man lying on the floor and I say to them, ‘That’s it. Let it go. Let it go, man. That’s it. It’s done.’ You know, don’t continue doing it. You’re going to kill the man,” Consuegra said.

Consuegra said the woman identified as Lien’s wife was hysterical.

“Yes, she started screaming and then we saw the baby,” he said. “That’s when we started seeing the baby inside the car with her, you know? And everybody started screaming ‘No, no! Not the lady! Not with the baby! Please don’t do that! I scream. too.”

Officials said at least five bikers began beating and even slashing the driver.

“Real big guys … and that’s when like I started thinking I got to do something because nobody is doing nothing, and they are going to kill this family,” Consuegra said. “That’s the moment when I turn around and went like this (he extends his arms) protecting the family and I said to myself I’m not going to move from here until they go.”

The only person criminally charged so far in Sunday’s encounter is Christopher Cruz. The 28-year-old was arraigned Wednesday on misdemeanor charges of reckless driving and unlawful imprisonment.

Police have said he is the one seen at the start of the video cutting in front of Lien’s Range Rover, causing the initial collision. His defense lawyer, H. Benjamin Perez, has denied all the allegations.

Several 911 calls made by the Lien family portrayed a frantic situation.

The first came from Lien followed by three more from his wife, Rosalyn Ng, who told the 911 operator they were “being surrounded” and ”being followed.”

During a final call from 178th Street, Ng told the dispatcher that the bikers were “attacking the car.”

It took emergency officials seven minutes to respond. Their sirens can be heard in the background during the final 911 call.

Ng released a statement Thursday saying they were “faced with a life-threatening situation” when they “were placed in grave danger by a mob of reckless and violent motorcyclists.”

source : http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/10/...-to-surrender/

XiP · 10-05-2013, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

This:

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i'd love to have one of those as my daily
i would never have to avoid traffic again

Redglare · 10-05-2013, 10:33 AM

J Meezee promo vid - YouTube

new video of the injured rider

Redglare · 10-06-2013, 04:19 PM

Warning Disclaimer, this video is pretty violent,

depicting the events after the range rover break in,

Video of these savage NYC motorcyclists pummeling Alexian L - YouTube

if the guy in the black suit did not intervene I doubt Mr. Lien would have been alive

10-04-2013, 02:02 PM	#394 (permalink)
jcosta79 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: N/A Posts: 1,430 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 15	Interesting frame by frame examination of the attack on the Range Rover: The Jawa Report: Bikers Versus SUV cossie1600 and SuperDave like this. __________________ 2012 PW NISMO #0559 - GT Spec Brace Kit - Swift Springs - ARK TP & Invidia CBE K&N Intake - UpRev Tune - 15mm Z1 Spacers & Studs - StopTech Slotted Rotors & SS Lines - ZSpeed CMAK with Stage 2 Clutch and Lightweight Flywheel

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enkei2k A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: NYC Posts: 6,365 Drives: '12 G41 B/S M6 Rep Power: 3716	Serious question: For the guy that was clearly caught smashing the driver side window, why does he need to lawyer up? __________________ ...need boost...

10-04-2013, 06:57 PM	#399 (permalink)
Redglare Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: FL Posts: 387 Drives: C172 Skyhawk GIII Rep Power: 175	I read the entire 27 pages of this thread and would like to add my .02 cents; Red_zed made a lot of valid points, and even though initially it may seem as he is siding with the bikers, after reading the entire argument he is just playing the devils advocate and looking at the case objectively just like the DA will, or at least should. No questions that the popularity of this case will have some influence on the events that will follow... It seems like the consensus here is that the RR driver is justified in his actions, and I also concur with this. A few things that I would like to point out; 1. You can obviously see in the original video 12+ other go-pro's and other cameras on the helmets, it is ironic that all of the cameras do not have the entire footage or how this was initiated. 2. The fact that the OP (biker who posted the video) took down all 7 of the videos of the same gang behaving recklessly on that same day is also another questionable move. 3. 911 call evidence with the RR driver being directed by dispatch to get of the highway to the nearest police station. just like Red_zed say I would do my best to not get caught in a similar situation, but life happens and some things we can not control. My only option would be to defend myself and my family, I would also drop the hammer on the bikers in front of me. SouthArk370Z and Nism0 like this. Last edited by Redglare; 10-04-2013 at 07:24 PM.

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Redglare Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: FL Posts: 387 Drives: C172 Skyhawk GIII Rep Power: 175	*small update After being chased by the bikers for nearly two miles, Lien was pulled out of his car and beaten when he got off the highway around West 178th Street and St. Nicholas Avenue, police said. All along, police had been trying to find a man they believe may have saved Lien’s life. His picture was circulated around his Washington Heights neighborhood, CBS 2’s Jessica Schneider reported. He’s since been identified as Sergio Consuegra and he spoke to CNN on Friday night. He said he was on his way to church when the Range Rover was surrounded by bikers. “I stood between them and the man lying on the floor and I say to them, ‘That’s it. Let it go. Let it go, man. That’s it. It’s done.’ You know, don’t continue doing it. You’re going to kill the man,” Consuegra said. Consuegra said the woman identified as Lien’s wife was hysterical. “Yes, she started screaming and then we saw the baby,” he said. “That’s when we started seeing the baby inside the car with her, you know? And everybody started screaming ‘No, no! Not the lady! Not with the baby! Please don’t do that! I scream. too.” Officials said at least five bikers began beating and even slashing the driver. “Real big guys … and that’s when like I started thinking I got to do something because nobody is doing nothing, and they are going to kill this family,” Consuegra said. “That’s the moment when I turn around and went like this (he extends his arms) protecting the family and I said to myself I’m not going to move from here until they go.” The only person criminally charged so far in Sunday’s encounter is Christopher Cruz. The 28-year-old was arraigned Wednesday on misdemeanor charges of reckless driving and unlawful imprisonment. Police have said he is the one seen at the start of the video cutting in front of Lien’s Range Rover, causing the initial collision. His defense lawyer, H. Benjamin Perez, has denied all the allegations. Several 911 calls made by the Lien family portrayed a frantic situation. The first came from Lien followed by three more from his wife, Rosalyn Ng, who told the 911 operator they were “being surrounded” and ”being followed.” During a final call from 178th Street, Ng told the dispatcher that the bikers were “attacking the car.” It took emergency officials seven minutes to respond. Their sirens can be heard in the background during the final 911 call. Ng released a statement Thursday saying they were “faced with a life-threatening situation” when they “were placed in grave danger by a mob of reckless and violent motorcyclists.” source : http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/10/...-to-surrender/

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Redglare Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: FL Posts: 387 Drives: C172 Skyhawk GIII Rep Power: 175	J Meezee promo vid - YouTube new video of the injured rider

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