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Originally Posted by andre12031948 Just my opinion. We all know, should know the difference between a "bike gang" and a bunch of wise guys riding ricer bikes. Is he (driver)a

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Just my opinion. We all know, should know the difference between a "bike gang" and a bunch of wise guys riding ricer bikes. Is he (driver)a head of some corporation? If he is, he knows the difference & would not have acted this way if there was a REAL dangerous looking gang around him.
Make it an informed opinion. It was a self defense situation on the part of the SUV driver.
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Make it an informed opinion. It was a self defense situation on the part of the SUV driver.
More accurately, there's not enough information to judge, though your proposition is perhaps more likely
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More accurately, there's not enough information to judge, though your proposition is perhaps more likely
It's a lot more likely than whatever Andre3000 is talking about.
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I'm not making any personal judgment against anyone, just trying to bring to light the legal implications of these decisions.
So far, it doesn't look like anybody is taking offense to anything being said. Considering the subject, I'd say things are going amazingly well. You make some very good legal points (I assume they are good, I'm no lawyer) but this isn't a court of law. If I were sitting on a jury, I'd be more worried about the technicalities. As it is, I'm just Some Guy On The Intertubes.
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Heavy bike traffic stopped on a highway/road. An SUV coming from the back into sight & accelerating. Bikers jump/try to get out of the way. One doesn't make it & gets run over. If the rest didn't get out of the way, they also would have been run over & maybe killed. The SUV doesn't stop after going over the bike & biker but goes forward even faster. That's what I saw on that video
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how do we know this range rover wasnt stolen? and these bikers were just trying to return it to its rightful owner?

or maybe it was being repoed
Yep, and because we (I) already established that since he's a Ninja, because he's Asian, he managed to buckle his kid in with a baby seat in record time!

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Or maybe they were just stopping to tell him that his wife left her purse on the roof when she strapped in the baby.
LOL!!! (My gf is Chinese, and assuming his wife is Asian...) she isn't talk enough...

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Or maybe they were letting him know he had a brake light out, hence why the bike was slowing down in front of him.
LOL, yeah, showing him up close of what a brake light is supposed to look like



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So far, it doesn't look like anybody is taking offense to anything being said.
Not true. A lot of us got offended by the one guy who dropped in to tell us we were all ******* afraid to stunt and we should let bikers have their fun.
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Not true. A lot of us got offended by the one guy who dropped in to tell us we were all ******* afraid to stunt and we should let bikers have their fun.
anybody any of the "major players" in this thread.

"Major players" = those willing to admit we don't have all the facts and have at least gone to the trouble to review what evidence there is
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Heavy bike traffic stopped on a highway/road. An SUV coming from the back into sight & accelerating. Bikers jump/try to get out of the way. One doesn't make it & gets run over. If the rest didn't get out of the way, they also would have been run over & maybe killed. The SUV doesn't stop after going over the bike & biker but goes forward even faster. That's what I saw on that video
The video on the first page doesn't start at the beginning of the issue. What you describe is not what happened. Read this- Bikers terrorize family in high-speed chase | New York Post
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Heavy bike traffic stopped on a highway/road. An SUV coming from the back into sight & accelerating. Bikers jump/try to get out of the way. One doesn't make it & gets run over. If the rest didn't get out of the way, they also would have been run over & maybe killed. The SUV doesn't stop after going over the bike & biker but goes forward even faster. That's what I saw on that video
What the heck are you talking about? Try watching it on a larger monitor. It happens fast but you'll notice one guy hitting the window on the driver side and another guy in white shirt near the front passenger tire in what looks like a stabbing motion a moment before the RR guy guns it. The traffic was stopped because the bikers stopped it. He bumped the biker because the biker clearly brake-checked him. He's looking backwards for Christ sake.

Just my observation of course...
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I don't know if you've already mentioned but just curious Red_Zed. What would you have done in that situation?
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It depends on what specifically happened, but I would not use deadly force in a situation where there was no other way to escape.


Backing up a bit, I would not be in that situation. I avoid states that do not allow for full use of a self-defense, so I would likely not be driving in NY in the first place.

If I came across a group of bikers taking up two lanes, I would move over to the right lane...because squids like that generally signal trouble. Legally not required, but the smart way to avoid conflict. If the accident was unavoidable and all that, I'd pull over and call the cops with the passenger taking a video recording in case things got messy.
I don't hate bikers, but the minority gives a bad name to the majority...
I usually get out of the way of cunty drivers or bikers or whatever. I even pull to the left if I'm in a carpool lane and let them pass if I see them coming.


At the same time IF THESE are the facts:
Driver accidentally, maybe even purposely cuts off a biker.
Bikers get pissed
Bikers brake check the car
Driver hits biker due to brake check
Bikers all stop enclosing driver

If we ASSUME all those to be true, as soon as my door handle was pulled and the first fist was thrown at my window to break it...
I would have done EXACTLY the same as the driver... And having the wife and 2 year old in the car (in my mind) gives him all the more right to do so.

Hell, if it was me, if I could think fast enough, I'd try to mow down the maximum number of bikers to avoid them coming after me after. And god knows I wouldn't let traffic stop me. For my baby's life, I'd ram other cars, run lights, and do whatever. If I get boxed in by traffic, put that bítch in reverse.
ESPECIALLY after they broke his window. Sorry. ALLLLLLLL bets are off.

I'll go to jail to save my baby. I hope most if not all of you would do the same.
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I don't hate bikers, but the minority gives a bad name to the majority...
I usually get out of the way of cunty drivers or bikers or whatever. I even pull to the left if I'm in a carpool lane and let them pass if I see them coming.


At the same time IF THESE are the facts:
Driver accidentally, maybe even purposely cuts off a biker.
Bikers get pissed
Bikers brake check the car
Driver hits biker due to brake check
Bikers all stop enclosing driver

If we ASSUME all those to be true, as soon as my door handle was pulled and the first fist was thrown at my window to break it...
I would have done EXACTLY the same as the driver... And having the wife and 2 year old in the car (in my mind) gives him all the more right to do so.

Hell, if it was me, if I could think fast enough, I'd try to mow down the maximum number of bikers to avoid them coming after me after. And god knows I wouldn't let traffic stop me. For my baby's life, I'd ram other cars, run lights, and do whatever. If I get boxed in by traffic, put that bítch in reverse.
ESPECIALLY after they broke his window. Sorry. ALLLLLLLL bets are off.

I'll go to jail to save my baby. I hope most if not all of you would do the same.
Exactly. The moment they attempt to gain entry to my vehicle, it becomes a self defense situation in my mind. I am experiencing a reasonable fear of injury or death. He's not opening my door to give me a back rub.
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