2024 Nissan Z Nismo Revealed with 420 HP / 384 LB-FT + Auto Transmission Only

DaveZ03 · 08-07-2023, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ventruck

A lot of people crying for an MT will never be in the conversation to buy the car in the first place.

What? If I wanted and was interested in this Z (not enough of a refresh for me to warrant the purchase), and could find one for MSRP (because I WILL NOT pay above MSRP), I could and would go buy one (IF there was a manual option). The straw that broke the camels back for me was when no MT was offered, further made more ridiculous by the Nismo not offering one. Hell, from a comparison stand point, it would stand to reason that they would offer a MT in the Nismo one to make them stand out even more from the the non Nismo ones AND more appealing to enthusiasts. I cannot believe that from an engineering perspective, they couldn't figure out a way to drop in the CD009 from the 370. I mean there is so much 370 in it, what would adding in a CD009 hurt?

FL 4Motion · 08-19-2023, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveZ03

What? If I wanted and was interested in this Z (not enough of a refresh for me to warrant the purchase), and could find one for MSRP (because I WILL NOT pay above MSRP), I could and would go buy one (IF there was a manual option). The straw that broke the camels back for me was when no MT was offered, further made more ridiculous by the Nismo not offering one. Hell, from a comparison stand point, it would stand to reason that they would offer a MT in the Nismo one to make them stand out even more from the the non Nismo ones AND more appealing to enthusiasts. I cannot believe that from an engineering perspective, they couldn't figure out a way to drop in the CD009 from the 370. I mean there is so much 370 in it, what would adding in a CD009 hurt?

I may have misread your post, but to clarify, you CAN get a manual 6mt in the non nismo z34.5. It even has an upgraded clutch iirc.

I do wish that the nismo was also available with a 6mt as well but for me, while disappointing, it’s not a deal breaker.

Tractionless · 08-20-2023, 08:27 AM

For the advertised $63k they can shove it! Still aesthetically a glorified GR86, blah.

vtec to vvel · 08-20-2023, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by danegrey

here is the reality. this is from autoweek....

But we really can't complain. In the current market it's a miracle that any carmaker is still selling sports cars. So far this year Nissan has sold only 996 Zs in the U.S. Compare that to almost 150,000 Rogue compact crossovers in the same time period. Nissan blames at least some of the slow sales on remnants of the chip supply problem. But larger than that is the market's obsession with crossover utility vehicles like the Rogue.

The closest competitor, the BMW-based Toyota Supra, brought in almost 5000 sales last year and is on track to move over 3000 this year.

https://www.autoweek.com/news/a44693...at-everything/

Also it quoted the following:
Nissan execs said that owners they spoke with wanted faster laps times with a Z NISMO, and the fastest lap time came from the automatic.

so who are they talking too? truthful for tracking an auto is easier and faster, not as much fun, but it is.

This article is flawed IMO. Yes, there is still the global supply chain issues, namely the chip production, but the other side of this coin is the elevated interest rates. Unless someone is buying the new Z in cash, it is more difficult now to get qualified for loans.

Also, I'm curious to see how many Z's have been in production so far and how many of them were sent to the US market. Keep in mind, the bmw supra made a come back after a 20-year haitus, so the anticipation was there, whereas the Z line has been back in production for 20 years.

And I agree, it would be impossible for any human to keep up and shift gears as fast as a computer.

vtec to vvel · 08-20-2023, 07:39 PM

The new Z is a fail. IMO, Nissan should cuts its losses and go back to the drawing board. Take another haitus if necessary and make a come back with a Z that is worthy of the heritage.

If they can't move the new Z off their books they way they hoped, do they really think the Nismo will be any different?

08-20-2023, 08:27 AM	#18 (permalink)
Tractionless A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Atlantic SE Posts: 1,326 Drives: '10 K23 ST 7AT Rep Power: 30525	For the advertised $63k they can shove it! Still aesthetically a glorified GR86, blah. Optimiser likes this. __________________ Toys Not Tots

08-20-2023, 07:39 PM	#20 (permalink)
vtec to vvel A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: 813 Posts: 3,915 Drives: 13 Z Rep Power: 502909	The new Z is a fail. IMO, Nissan should cuts its losses and go back to the drawing board. Take another haitus if necessary and make a come back with a Z that is worthy of the heritage. If they can't move the new Z off their books they way they hoped, do they really think the Nismo will be any different? Optimiser and Tractionless like this. __________________ Don't like what I post? Too bad. I really don't give a sh!t

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