Concerns Over New Product

Whitey · 01-13-2022, 10:56 AM

Is anybody concerned about buying the new Z when it rolls out here in a few months? Typically I have always thought you should wait for the 2nd model year so they can work out the kinks/bugs/issues with a new car before buying.

Anybody else feel this way? I did have a mechanic tell me that this type of thinking is now archaic, that things are so advanced and been around for so long nowadays that it's nothing to worry about.

r/Mike

DaveZ03 · 01-13-2022, 12:05 PM

Your mechanic should prolly do a little more research. Look what happened with the Focus RS, of all things, they placed the wrong headgasket on that motor for example. That's just one example, and trust me when I say as an ex owner of one, it was a pain in the a$$ to get Ford to take it seriously and actually rectify the situation.
I will never buy the first generation of anything anymore as a result.

JARblue · 01-13-2022, 12:12 PM

Generally, I would agree that first gen iterations are not the wisest purchase. However, the new Z is far from a first iteration. The motor, drivetrain, and chassis have all been around for years. I would be more concerned about the CSC issue than overall reliability.

tvfreakazoid · 01-13-2022, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue

Generally, I would agree that first gen iterations are not the wisest purchase. However, the new Z is far from a first iteration. The motor, drivetrain, and chassis have all been around for years. I would be more concerned about the CSC issue than overall reliability.

CSC?

I'll be in my bunk!

sportsman2003 · 01-13-2022, 01:19 PM

The manual 370Z has a problem with the CSC ( concentric slave cylinder )
these need to be replaced with an aftermarket unit to be reliable.

I would hope that Nissan addressed this problem in the new model, only time will tell.

Andaesthetics · 01-14-2022, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue

Generally, I would agree that first gen iterations are not the wisest purchase. However, the new Z is far from a first iteration. The motor, drivetrain, and chassis have all been around for years. I would be more concerned about the CSC issue than overall reliability.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportsman2003

The manual 370Z has a problem with the CSC ( concentric slave cylinder )
these need to be replaced with an aftermarket unit to be reliable.

I would hope that Nissan addressed this problem in the new model, only time will tell.

The CSC is external now and I can't remember but I think they said it was made from a carbon composite material or something. Not exactly sure but it has definitely been addressed this much they confirmed.

Magic Bus · 01-16-2022, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Andaesthetics

The CSC is external now and I can't remember but I think they said it was made from a carbon composite material or something. Not exactly sure but it has definitely been addressed this much they confirmed.

I believe you maybe referring to a post by Z1Motorsports (below). Carbon composite would be the drive shaft.

https://www.newnissanz.com/threads/c...ernal-now.622/

Regarding original question, I typically don’t buy the 1st year a model comes out. However, I wouldn’t be too concerned about this Z, as almost all of it’s major parts have been proven. A good, long, hard driven test drive that really impresses, would be necessary for me to consider switching from my M2 though.

vtec to vvel · 09-04-2022, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportsman2003

The manual 370Z has a problem with the CSC ( concentric slave cylinder )
these need to be replaced with an aftermarket unit to be reliable.

I would hope that Nissan addressed this problem in the new model, only time will tell.

The CSC issue has been around since the 350Z days (starting with the HR model I believe) and got carried over to the Z34’s.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andaesthetics

The CSC is external now and I can't remember but I think they said it was made from a carbon composite material or something. Not exactly sure but it has definitely been addressed this much they confirmed.

I thought the CSC was still internal. Can someone confirm the CSC is external from the factory?

coyoteboy · 09-06-2022, 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue

Generally, I would agree that first gen iterations are not the wisest purchase. However, the new Z is far from a first iteration. The motor, drivetrain, and chassis have all been around for years. I would be more concerned about the CSC issue than overall reliability.

He said, as all of the new Z cars are put on hold/no sell warnings, to recall a fault in the auto box that causes roll-aways...

SophiaZ · 09-06-2022, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coyoteboy

He said, as all of the new Z cars are put on hold/no sell warnings, to recall a fault in the auto box that causes roll-aways...

On hold/no sell..am I misunderstanding or are you saying they can't sell them yet?

tvfreakazoid · 01-13-2022, 12:59 PM

That makes sense. And I would follow this imo. But since the "New" Z, is more of carry over from other another car and the previous gen, there shouldn't be a lot of kinks etc.

I'll be in my bunk!

BORNGEARHEAD · 01-16-2022, 06:19 PM

I'll be waiting at least a year for the new Z.

Tractionless · 01-19-2022, 01:35 PM

wait for the first 10k units to roll out.

Nissan still didn't get the 370z built right after 13 years if that tells ya anything. Look at their common failures. Other than galley gaskets, what changed?

tvfreakazoid · 01-19-2022, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tractionless

wait for the first 10k units to roll out.

Nissan still didn't get the 370z built right after 13 years if that tells ya anything. Look at their common failures. Other than galley gaskets, what changed?

Thats terrible

I'll be in my bunk!

Tractionless · 01-22-2022, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid

Thats terrible

I'll be in my bunk!

Ya bad news but I'm a realist.

01-13-2022, 10:56 AM	#1 (permalink)
Whitey Base Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Loogootee, IN Posts: 1 Drives: Two Zs Rep Power: 6	Concerns Over New Product Is anybody concerned about buying the new Z when it rolls out here in a few months? Typically I have always thought you should wait for the 2nd model year so they can work out the kinks/bugs/issues with a new car before buying. Anybody else feel this way? I did have a mechanic tell me that this type of thinking is now archaic, that things are so advanced and been around for so long nowadays that it's nothing to worry about. r/Mike

01-13-2022, 12:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 44 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684441	Generally, I would agree that first gen iterations are not the wisest purchase. However, the new Z is far from a first iteration. The motor, drivetrain, and chassis have all been around for years. I would be more concerned about the CSC issue than overall reliability. tvfreakazoid, cv129, danegrey and 6 others like this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

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tvfreakazoid A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: kommie kali Posts: 1,238 Drives: 2015 Audi S5; 6spd. Rep Power: 10325	That makes sense. And I would follow this imo. But since the "New" Z, is more of carry over from other another car and the previous gen, there shouldn't be a lot of kinks etc. I'll be in my bunk! takemorepills likes this. __________________ Mudders milk

01-16-2022, 06:19 PM	#12 (permalink)
BORNGEARHEAD Base Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: WI Posts: 58 Drives: 2020 370z Passion Rep Power: 3360	I'll be waiting at least a year for the new Z. __________________ '20 370Z Sport - '15 Frontier - '04 350Z Roadster - '79 Datsun 620

01-19-2022, 01:35 PM	#13 (permalink)
Tractionless A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Atlantic SE Posts: 1,336 Drives: '10 K23 ST 7AT Rep Power: 30526	wait for the first 10k units to roll out. Nissan still didn't get the 370z built right after 13 years if that tells ya anything. Look at their common failures. Other than galley gaskets, what changed? tvfreakazoid likes this. __________________ Toys Not Tots

01-13-2022, 12:05 PM	#2 (permalink)
DaveZ03 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Kentucky Posts: 235 Drives: '11 FairladyZ Rep Power: 51860	Your mechanic should prolly do a little more research. Look what happened with the Focus RS, of all things, they placed the wrong headgasket on that motor for example. That's just one example, and trust me when I say as an ex owner of one, it was a pain in the a$$ to get Ford to take it seriously and actually rectify the situation. I will never buy the first generation of anything anymore as a result.

01-13-2022, 01:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
sportsman2003 Base Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: In the moment Posts: 191 Drives: Sideways most times Rep Power: 11606	The manual 370Z has a problem with the CSC ( concentric slave cylinder ) these need to be replaced with an aftermarket unit to be reliable. I would hope that Nissan addressed this problem in the new model, only time will tell.

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