Concerns Over New Product

Whitey

Is anybody concerned about buying the new Z when it rolls out here in a few months? Typically I have always thought you should wait for the 2nd model year so they can work out the kinks/bugs/issues with a new car before buying.

Anybody else feel this way? I did have a mechanic tell me that this type of thinking is now archaic, that things are so advanced and been around for so long nowadays that it's nothing to worry about.

r/Mike

DaveZ03

Your mechanic should prolly do a little more research. Look what happened with the Focus RS, of all things, they placed the wrong headgasket on that motor for example. That's just one example, and trust me when I say as an ex owner of one, it was a pain in the a$$ to get Ford to take it seriously and actually rectify the situation.
I will never buy the first generation of anything anymore as a result.

JARblue

Generally, I would agree that first gen iterations are not the wisest purchase. However, the new Z is far from a first iteration. The motor, drivetrain, and chassis have all been around for years. I would be more concerned about the CSC issue than overall reliability.

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tvfreakazoid

That makes sense. And I would follow this imo. But since the "New" Z, is more of carry over from other another car and the previous gen, there shouldn't be a lot of kinks etc.

I'll be in my bunk!

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tvfreakazoid

CSC?

I'll be in my bunk!

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sportsman2003

The manual 370Z has a problem with the CSC ( concentric slave cylinder )
these need to be replaced with an aftermarket unit to be reliable.

I would hope that Nissan addressed this problem in the new model, only time will tell.

Andaesthetics

The CSC is external now and I can't remember but I think they said it was made from a carbon composite material or something. Not exactly sure but it has definitely been addressed this much they confirmed.

Magic Bus

I believe you maybe referring to a post by Z1Motorsports (below). Carbon composite would be the drive shaft.

https://www.newnissanz.com/threads/c...ernal-now.622/

Regarding original question, I typically don’t buy the 1st year a model comes out. However, I wouldn’t be too concerned about this Z, as almost all of it’s major parts have been proven. A good, long, hard driven test drive that really impresses, would be necessary for me to consider switching from my M2 though.

BORNGEARHEAD

I'll be waiting at least a year for the new Z.

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Tractionless

wait for the first 10k units to roll out.

Nissan still didn't get the 370z built right after 13 years if that tells ya anything. Look at their common failures. Other than galley gaskets, what changed?

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tvfreakazoid

Thats terrible

I'll be in my bunk!

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Tractionless

Ya bad news but I'm a realist.

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Ivary

I agree, there are always issues with the first year car. I also agree it is always cool to own the first year of a model. I bought a RX-8 first year out, it was the coolest ever, I was always showing it to people and opening it up, I got several "cool car" comments whenever I got out of it. It had several recalls, needed an AC upgrade, and the tail lights filled with water in the rain. That was an easy fix, but once at the dealer for a recall issue I saw 40 new RX-8s with tail lights full of water. The new Supra had a 20 HP boost the second year out. This Z car will be one of the only sports cars with a six speed and under 3400 lbs so it may be hard to wait.

SophiaZ

I’m not at all worried about the first production with the “new” Z…. When the 370Z was first lunched, I bought a brand new 09 base and 09 sport and had no issues whatsoever for the 2 years I kept it. If something were to go wrong with the 2023, that’s what warranties and GAP ins is for IMO.

cv129

VR30 motor has existed for ages now.
Chassis and suspension are carried over from Z34.
Center stack is just carried over setup from other Nissan’s and Infiniti’s.
Same Akebono calipers.
Now external CSC!!!!!
Can’t comment on the 9 speed auto though.


Nothing ground breaking, nothing new here. If anything, you can consider it a mechanically improved version of Z34. In this case, I don’t have reservation to be an early bird.

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