Unimpressed by the 400z

Voice59 · 01-06-2021, 09:30 PM

I really think Nissan missed the mark on this one... To be honest you could probably post a slightly modded 370 interior and nobody would be the wiser. The interior, electronics/interface, and the transmission are already outdated and the car isn't even out yet. The exterior has potential, but it seems for some reason Nissan has fallen behind when it comes to innovation. Every "new" Nissan still has styling or technology from 10 years ago. It's a shame... I was so hopeful.

SouthArk370Z · 01-06-2021, 09:32 PM

I still like the way a 1965 Mustang looks. Same for any year 370Z. Some designs are ageless. YMMV

Voice59 · 01-06-2021, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

I still like the way a 1965 Mustang looks. Same for any year 370Z. Some designs are ageless. YMMV

Oh, I'm with you for the 370, or classic cars. But I think the time for the. "retro" look has come and pass here on the domestic market. Ford, Dodge, and Chevy have taken note and either have or are attempting to revitalize the aesthetics and technology in their vehicles. Honestly it seems like EVERY other manufacturer is looking to update their inventory with something that at least looks "innovative and futuristic". But good ol' Nissan and Infiniti are literally producing new cars with technology that was considered "dated" 7-10 years ago.

Voice59 · 01-06-2021, 09:44 PM

I just can't justify spending the amount of money they're going to ask for that car, for the aesthetics, technology, and performance it's going to have. They took beautiful cars and mashed them together to produce something...not as appealing. Something boring... And mind you, that's the concept. That's their "oh let's blow their mind" draft. The production model I imagine will be far less....well....everything.

Lvcky69 · 01-07-2021, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Voice59

I just can't justify spending the amount of money they're going to ask for that car, for the aesthetics, technology, and performance it's going to have. They took beautiful cars and mashed them together to produce something...not as appealing. Something boring... And mind you, that's the concept. That's their "oh let's blow their mind" draft. The production model I imagine will be far less....well....everything.

They did say 98% of the concept will be identical to the final production..

takemorepills · 01-06-2021, 11:21 PM

Totally disagree with OP on all points.

I can't wait for the new 300Z Twin Turbo!

axmea? · 01-07-2021, 03:24 AM

Lol. I get your point but wait 'til it becomes available and one blows by you stock and no tune. Also, there's not a good business reason for Nissan to put in more than they have to.

Voice59 · 01-07-2021, 07:51 PM

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Lol. I get your point but wait 'til it becomes available and one blows by you stock and no tune. Also, there's not a good business reason for Nissan to put in more than they have to.

LOL. I doubt that will happen. And I don't think it's putting in more than they have to.. I just feel that their spirit of innovation has called it quits.

axmea? · 01-09-2021, 03:32 PM

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LOL. I doubt that will happen. And I don't think it's putting in more than they have to.. I just feel that their spirit of innovation has called it quits.

The spirit is there but no money to lift that spirit. Which is OK. Can't expect too much given current conditions and how the industry is headed towards EVs and how its partnership with Renault hurt it in the long run (yes I know they needed their money to survive). With their current struggles, going cheap was the right course using whatever they can from existing parts bin.

For me, what was innovative and ahead of the curve was the S30,and its variants and the Z32. My brother had a white Z32 TT, T-Top, and four-wheel steering. That was when I said, I got to have a Z some day. In less than 2 years, it was squashed when his apartment landed on it during the Northridge quake.

Voice59 · 01-09-2021, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by axmea?

The spirit is there but no money to lift that spirit. Which is OK. Can't expect too much given current conditions and how the industry is headed towards EVs and how its partnership with Renault hurt it in the long run (yes I know they needed their money to survive). With their current struggles, going cheap was the right course using whatever they can from existing parts bin.

For me, what was innovative and ahead of the curve was the S30,and its variants and the Z32. My brother had a white Z32 TT, T-Top, and four-wheel steering. That was when I said, I got to have a Z some day. In less than 2 years, it was squashed when his apartment landed on it during the Northridge quake.

Damn, that's a shame about the earthquake. Crazy how quickly things can change in life.

-ZS-Carpenter · 01-07-2021, 06:22 AM

sunkist350z · 01-07-2021, 11:13 PM

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The new z is not even out yet lol

Voice59 · 01-08-2021, 11:17 PM

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The new z is not even out yet lol

Let me know when you get to your point. They clearly unveiled a Z. Whether or not it's available for purchase doesn't change the fact that the product they DID show was unimpressive to me...

sunkist350z · 01-08-2021, 11:35 PM

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Let me know when you get to your point. They clearly unveiled a Z. Whether or not it's available for purchase doesn't change the fact that the product they DID show was unimpressive to me...

Again...the new z is not even out yet, don't judge the proto, hence the word "proto" as the final production is not unveiled.

Voice59 · 01-08-2021, 11:40 PM

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Again...the new z is not even out yet, don't judge a the proto, hence the word "proto" as the final production is not unveiled.

Do you like it?

01-06-2021, 09:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
Voice59 Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Va Beach, Virginia Posts: 1,418 Drives: 2009 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 16	Unimpressed by the 400z I really think Nissan missed the mark on this one... To be honest you could probably post a slightly modded 370 interior and nobody would be the wiser. The interior, electronics/interface, and the transmission are already outdated and the car isn't even out yet. The exterior has potential, but it seems for some reason Nissan has fallen behind when it comes to innovation. Every "new" Nissan still has styling or technology from 10 years ago. It's a shame... I was so hopeful. xfrgtr, Memphis370Z, FrankH and 1 others like this. __________________ Amuse//GTM//Stance//Z1//ONEighty//Defi//VolkRacing//FLy1Motorsports Seibon//FastIntentions//Zspeed//Mishimoto//EBC//Innovate//Defi//Ichiba Quaife//RJM//Galeforce//ShineAuto//TWM//IG @n0w_u_z_me

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Voice59 Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Va Beach, Virginia Posts: 1,418 Drives: 2009 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 16	I just can't justify spending the amount of money they're going to ask for that car, for the aesthetics, technology, and performance it's going to have. They took beautiful cars and mashed them together to produce something...not as appealing. Something boring... And mind you, that's the concept. That's their "oh let's blow their mind" draft. The production model I imagine will be far less....well....everything. __________________ Amuse//GTM//Stance//Z1//ONEighty//Defi//VolkRacing//FLy1Motorsports Seibon//FastIntentions//Zspeed//Mishimoto//EBC//Innovate//Defi//Ichiba Quaife//RJM//Galeforce//ShineAuto//TWM//IG @n0w_u_z_me

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axmea? A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,236 Drives: WELL ZED PW 6MT Rep Power: 53241	Lol. I get your point but wait 'til it becomes available and one blows by you stock and no tune. Also, there's not a good business reason for Nissan to put in more than they have to. DarkJak, Voice59, jchammond and 1 others like this. __________________ >MyZ's Album< NISMO Convert/ECUTEK/Takeda CAI/F.I. HFC NR CB Carbon/F.I. 34 Row Oil Cooler/4.08 Final Drive /Powertrix+Swifts/Hotchkis/SPL/Whiteline/TWM/Zoom Engineering/EVO-R/AeroJacket Vented CF Fenders + CF Spoiler/Avant Garde-WORK/NST/Morimoto Halo/STi Clear Lenses/Carbon Signal Automotive/RJM Performance/ZSpeed Clutch Flywheel CSC delete Last edited by axmea?; 01-07-2021 at 03:26 AM.

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