Unimpressed by the 400z

Originally Posted by Andaesthetics

The Proto was displayed at Nashville Cars and Coffee this Saturday...

Originally Posted by gurneyeagle

Interesting thread and pretty much the same sentiments expressed by 350Z owners when the 370Z was introduced, as well as just about any new generation of a current car; i.e. C7 guys are in full bitch mode against the C8.

I guess it's hard to accept the fact your car - which I'm sure you love - is about to be "obsoleted" in some way.

Since selling my 2011 370Z, I've had a Mercedes AMG CLA 45 and an Audi TTRS. Both great cars with amazing engineering and build quality. Also with exorbitant maintenance costs.

I've been seriously considering a C8, but the new Z has really caught my interest. Part of it is the Z community, but a big part of it is price (half of a 3LT C8) and Nissan quality.

What I really want to see is the Nismo version. If it really is a baby GT-R with AWD, DCT, and 500HP, I'm in. I can't imagine it costing more than $65K which would still make it an outstanding value.

Like mentioned above, let's see what the production models look like, how they perform, what they are equipped with and what they cost before making any negative comments.

Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

This thread is proof that you can please some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time.

If the z35 had gone whole hog full redesign and super latest tech gizmos etc, then folks like me and others would bitch about not being as pure and old school driver focused sports car anymore, (it’d def have steer by wire ans that as much as anything else hurts driver connection to the car)

Now we get a heavily revised 370z with updated interior, better trans, better TT engine, upgraded evertything with regards to performance and most likely the aftermarket will get product out quick bc not a big change from existing car, and drivetrain isn’t new either…

And people bitch and moan that it’s not good enough

And all this happening when sports cars are struggling to justify their existence, and a global pandemic, and Nissan is financially on the ropes.



All the people who think they’re better off with an aftermarket TT kit and swapping in the new body panels to make their own are smoking some good sh1t. A TT car with warranty and corporate engineering to make it reliable for 100k plus miles is not reproducible by you. 90% of folks will be happy with stage II power levels and it will far cheaper and more reliable to get to that level starting with a factory FI’d car to begin with.

We should all be thanking the car gods this z35 even exists at all frankly. The aftermarket will step up and fix whatever factory shortcomings there will be, just like they did for the z34.

Originally Posted by Firebase99

Being in heavy South Florida traffic and the fact theres no DCT is a deal breaker for me. My girlfriends Hyundai Veloster Ultimate is DCT and its AMAZING. Hyundai is launching the N line Veloster with the DCT next year. Frigging rocket ship for $34K.

Originally Posted by Voice59

My issue isn't that the tech isn't cutting edge. It's that the "new" Z is using technology and styling from damn near 10 years ago in most cases. ****, the power plant isn't even anything new. Just an engine swap from the Q's. The only thing that is "new" is the design.

that’s a fair criticism, I personally think the interior styling is just fine, it has a nice retro 240z flair at least to me and it isn’t cluttered up with oversized touchscreens etc. I do however have a huge gripe with the seats if they are in fact recycled 370 seats. The “new” nismo seats should be the base seat at least and we should get real functional racing seats in the nismo ala gt3 rs etc I think it’s a good thing the power plant is not new, we’ve already got aftermarket support, and it’s proven to be reliable and decent. Big step up from the vq37 imo.

The thing is I'm not even upset about the power plant. It's that the transmission is (from what's been released so far) the SAME 7 speed trans and SAME 6 speed manual that came in the 2009's. The interior is NOT heavily modified, unless you consider a digital dash heavily modified. It's virtually identical to what was released in the 370z with the exception of stitching.

I think we’re getting a new 9sd at which hopefully is a big improvement. The 6mt is a very strong reliable unit other than the csc. I hope that’s been addressed but if not, at least we have zspeed.

I realize they're struggling financially but I'd wager to say it's due to lack of innovation. People just aren't interested in Nissan anymore because almost everything they produce is behind the curve by 3 to 5 years the moment it hits the showroom floor.

Originally Posted by Firebase99

Being in heavy South Florida traffic and the fact theres no DCT is a deal breaker for me. My girlfriends Hyundai Veloster Ultimate is DCT and its AMAZING. Hyundai is launching the N line Veloster with the DCT next year. Frigging rocket ship for $34K.