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You're entitled to your opinion. You raise some valid points, but I think Nissan saw an opportunity in the market to pull some Supra buyers and maybe pull some muscle

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Old 01-07-2021, 09:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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You're entitled to your opinion. You raise some valid points, but I think Nissan saw an opportunity in the market to pull some Supra buyers and maybe pull some muscle car buyers by leveraging some existing tech they have without investing much in a new platform. This was most likely the ONLY way we were getting a new Z. They're investing in electric and other more profitable vehicles than the Z, since most sports cars, unfortunately, do not sell well these days.

I'll hold my thoughts on performance until those stats are released and until the drive reviews come back. I would imagine it's 400hp at around 3400lbs. Which is a pretty nice balance relative to something like a Mustang which is 480hp at 3900lbs. With the twin-turbo setup you'll have tuning potential that was much more challenging for 350-370 engines. Power will not be expensive to make relative to those cars (if that's your thing).

I love the design as it hits the heart strings by attaching itself to the older models. I've wanted a 240z inspired retro design for a long time and this is probably the closest we'll ever come. Some of the design elements don't seem to mesh well together, but the car is still a clean beautiful design in an age of excess vents and styling. The aftermarket can provide more here as well.

The benefit of using an existing platform/motor/transmission is reliability and cost. I do get that it's not as exciting, but, most of the kinks will have been worked out and they didn't have to invest in new tech for this project. On top of that, you'll get a more old school feel in this car, which is something that most enthusiasts say they want.

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You're entitled to your opinion. You raise some valid points, but I think Nissan saw an opportunity in the market to pull some Supra buyers and maybe pull some muscle car buyers by leveraging some existing tech they have without investing much in a new platform. This was most likely the ONLY way we were getting a new Z. They're investing in electric and other more profitable vehicles than the Z, since most sports cars, unfortunately, do not sell well these days.

I'll hold my thoughts on performance until those stats are released and until the drive reviews come back. I would imagine it's 400hp at around 3400lbs. Which is a pretty nice balance relative to something like a Mustang which is 480hp at 3900lbs. With the twin-turbo setup you'll have tuning potential that was much more challenging for 350-370 engines. Power will not be expensive to make relative to those cars (if that's your thing).

I love the design as it hits the heart strings by attaching itself to the older models. I've wanted a 240z inspired retro design for a long time and this is probably the closest we'll ever come. Some of the design elements don't seem to mesh well together, but the car is still a clean beautiful design in an age of excess vents and styling. The aftermarket can provide more here as well.

The benefit of using an existing platform/motor/transmission is reliability and cost. I do get that it's not as exciting, but, most of the kinks will have been worked out and they didn't have to invest in new tech for this project. On top of that, you'll get a more old school feel in this car, which is something that most enthusiasts say they want.
If you're going to go through the dog and pony show of unveiling a "new" Z why is it using technology from cars you had 10 years ago? I honestly think that lack of innovation is why Nissan/Infiniti is hurting the way they are. Not just in the Z's but across their whole line up. I'd be on board if they stuck to one Z car to base their retro style on....but all of them? I dunno man... Renders with aftermarket parts on it make it look great, but damn...I absolutely cannot appreciate that car in it's stock form.
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If you're going to go through the dog and pony show of unveiling a "new" Z why is it using technology from cars you had 10 years ago? I honestly think that lack of innovation is why Nissan/Infiniti is hurting the way they are. Not just in the Z's but across their whole line up. I'd be on board if they stuck to one Z car to base their retro style on....but all of them? I dunno man... Renders with aftermarket parts on it make it look great, but damn...I absolutely cannot appreciate that car in it's stock form.
Because they want to sell these?

They need to drum up excitement and anticipation and show their potential customers that there IS actually a new Z on the way.

Maybe you aren't a customer because they didn't do enough in your eyes, but did you really think they were just going to low-key launch the Z and go here's a new Z, not much to it, maybe buy it maybe don't?
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