[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

NecioVato

Definitely agree that the timing was WAY off - the beginning of the pandemic, the shortages that we were all seeing and knew it would affect the overall delivery of the product. Once the product has been received - now we are dealing with markups - which is kinda insane when you think about it - bc this is supposed to be a car that will help rejuvenate interest in NISSAN vs turn people off - like it has (if you ask me). Not only that - but if you can offer this car without the markups - then you can compete against Toyota Supra bc personally it feels like this car can't compete with it on performance; but probably could on price.

The thing is though - I feel if they would have waited - it would have never happened. Part of me feels like - maybe they should have done a 'small refresh' like take the 370z and drop a VR30 in it with all the supporting mods and look to add a larger screen with Apple Car Play. Speaking for myself - that is ALL I was looking for. The new design I don't hate but I keep hearing that its more like a cruiser and less like a sports car - if that is the case - then yeah, I'm out. The Nismo definitely isn't helping things by being AUTO only SMH.

Oh well - you get the point - /rant.

nis350

We were looking to buy an Q60, but ended up with an Lexus. The VR30 motor has major problems with the turbos, and the engine block where it required the replacement of the short block.

Furthermore, one has to be an idiot to pay $30K+ mark up on the new Z regardless.

nismoskyz

That's basically what they did though. RZ34 is really just a refresh on the Z34 chassis, as the chassis code gives away. VR30 is added and finally some current-gen tech. Behind the dashboard, from the center console back, the cabin is mostly the same as the 370Z. Of course the exterior is significantly refreshed, but the roof lines of the 370Z are still visible.

I was unhappy with Nissan for not doing a full-fledged redesign to show what they're capable of, like with the 350Z's introduction and something that would really go after the GR Supra. Though I guess with production challenges in mind, maybe this chassis refresh was the right move at this time.

Bonzo

IMO they should have completely killed off the 370Z in 2017. 6 years in the modern era is long, but 8 to 10 years is really long in the tooth. I think sales show that with the 370.

Then they should have spent the time off getting Nissan back in order as a company. Then come out with an all new modern Z in say 2025.

As it is, the new Z (not even a proper name as 3 dealers I've been to call it the 400Z), is a filler car to help aid and bridge a gap. Except I really think it was a waste of time. That's just my opinion of course, which means nothing in reality.

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nismoskyz

Ah don't get me started on the 370Z's long production run. I couldn't believe how antiquated the interiors were on 2020 370Z's I sat in and test drove at the dealer. Completely lacking all the "basic" new features found in other cars. No Android Auto/Carplay, no Lane Assist, no Adaptive Cruise. Just the same standard interior that was introduced in '09. The caveat to this was that in case if you wanted a "classic" 370Z in brand-new condition, well you could just buy one at the dealer. Except when you pay "new car money" for a technologically old car, it just doesn't make sense.

It seems that the CEO/political troubles in the company dragged out the introduction of a new Z way longer than was needed. I mean the Project Clubsport 23 was already prepared by Nismo back in 2018. That Nismo 370Z fully equipped with a VR30DDTT, shows where the thinking was headed, but perhaps they couldn't organize internally to make it happen; https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...lubsport-sema/

So we got the "Nissan Z"/"400Z"/"RZ34", since the GR Supra's success required some answer as the aging 370Z specs could no longer compete. I really fully wanted/expected Nissan to introduce a proper answer, but it seems they were unable to with these (internal/external) challenges. My consolation is how few sports cars are on the market today. While the GR Supra is mostly BMW, Nissan is still producing their own sports car. But when I see the C8 Corvette and it's incredible ground-up design, I just imagine what kind of sports car Nissan would answer with if they really tried.