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Old 01-29-2021, 09:42 AM   #6196 (permalink)
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It'll have 400HP for sure. To be honest at this point I don't really see them offering a 300HP version ever. And also you have to realize that not everyone tunes their cars. In fact I'm sure a majority of buyers won't at all or at least until after the factory warranty is up.

Also is anyone else wondering why they aren't releasing ANY new info on the new Z since the Proto reveal? I've heard multiple car media sites say the car is expected Spring/Summer of this year. I know COVID delays and such but not even a test mule has been spotted anywhere. Perhaps they're having issues with the car in some capacity? At this rate I don't think we'll see it hit production until 2022.
They will likely offer a 300HP version to compete with the lower trim of the Supra. I am guessing the trims will line up well with the Q60, base 300HP, sport 400HP for now. Maybe Nismo will be 400+ or the 400 with other enhancements?
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It'll have 400HP for sure. To be honest at this point I don't really see them offering a 300HP version ever. And also you have to realize that not everyone tunes their cars. In fact I'm sure a majority of buyers won't at all or at least until after the factory warranty is up.

Also is anyone else wondering why they aren't releasing ANY new info on the new Z since the Proto reveal? I've heard multiple car media sites say the car is expected Spring/Summer of this year. I know COVID delays and such but not even a test mule has been spotted anywhere. Perhaps they're having issues with the car in some capacity? At this rate I don't think we'll see it hit production until 2022.
The Z Proto is a complete product, finished in actual manufactured, ready for prime time components. It is not some hand built static display with a balsa wood interior. I am 100% sure Nissan could (and might be) producing it's major parts today. It even has the standard Nissan/Infiniti key-fob dock on the dash. They would NOT bother with details like that if the car was just a tease.

My opinion about the delay is that Nissan may be behind the ball on the automatic transmission. Notice we have a fully functioning 6MT proto, but not an automatic proto?
Are they considering DCT? ZF? For the love of puppies will they not torture us with the 7AT? Are they trying to develop some appropriate shift programming for their 9AT to match the car? They did a heavy makeover on the Armada, and despite the Frontier and Titan (with exact same engine as Armada) using the 9AT, the Armada received a ton of revisions and is stuck with the 7AT. Nissan even admitted that the 9AT may come NEXT year.

Also, CCP Virus is still disrupting the industry, and Nissan is trying very hard to get bread-n-butter stuff released ASAP to recover from the recent scandal. My opinion is they are doing their best.

They DO need to release it sooner than later, Beijing Biden is on a disruptive tear right now and we don't want to get surprised by some asinine executive order that kills the car before it is released.

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Nissan even admitted that the 9AT may come NEXT year.
That would awesome if Nissan released the new Z in a 6MT with no AT option I might have to buy one if that happens. Might be for the best just to get it to market tho. As long as the AT isn't a dud when finally released.

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My opinion is they are doing their best.
That's the problem though. This is their best??
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The Z Proto is a complete product, finished in actual manufactured, ready for prime time components. It is not some hand built static display with a balsa wood interior. I am 100% sure Nissan could (and might be) producing it's major parts today. It even has the standard Nissan/Infiniti key-fob dock on the dash. They would NOT bother with details like that if the car was just a tease.

My opinion about the delay is that Nissan may be behind the ball on the automatic transmission. Notice we have a fully functioning 6MT proto, but not an automatic proto?
Are they considering DCT? ZF? For the love of puppies will they not torture us with the 7AT? Are they trying to develop some appropriate shift programming for their 9AT to match the car? They did a heavy makeover on the Armada, and despite the Frontier and Titan (with exact same engine as Armada) using the 9AT, the Armada received a ton of revisions and is stuck with the 7AT. Nissan even admitted that the 9AT may come NEXT year.

Also, CCP Virus is still disrupting the industry, and Nissan is trying very hard to get bread-n-butter stuff released ASAP to recover from the recent scandal. My opinion is they are doing their best.

They DO need to release it sooner than later, Beijing Biden is on a disruptive tear right now and we don't want to get surprised by some asinine executive order that kills the car before it is released.
It will be using the 9 speed tuned by NISMO, which is why they stated it is in development.
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That's the problem though. This is their best??
I mean, come on man, this is Nissan, after all!

We should be grateful it isn't a 2 door FWD version of a Versa with a CVT!
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Was looking through Nissan's site and looks like they're holding a virtual reveal and Q&A on Feb 4th at 1pm EST involving the Z Proto and ARIYA:

https://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/future-concept.html

Interesting that they're using images of the Frontier and Pathfinder. Guess they're showcasing a few other vehicles as well. Hope we get some info on a release date, HP/torque, trim levels, and pricing.

EDIT: Reveal for Frontier and Pathfinder with a cameo by the Z
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Looks like you won't have long to buy a Z35 with the VR30TT. The gasoline only Z will be discontinued around 2025! The Z35 will then become a hybrid until the end of its lifecycle in 2030 using the same hybrid power train to be introduced in the Infiniti Q50/Q60 in 2024-2025. If there is a Z36 after that, it will be an EV. (via Google translate):



Impact of Nissan's all-new car electrification policy !! Can Fairlady Z and GT-R survive !? Next model and whereabouts of survival
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All new cars launched by Nissan from the early 2030s will be electrified! What will happen to Nissan's next-generation sports models, the "GT-R" and "Fairlady Z," which represent Japan, and beyond?

On January 27th, Nissan announced a release on carbon neutrality. Among them, it is clear that "from the early 2030s, we will further actively promote the adoption of electrification technology by making all new models to be launched in the main markets of Japan, China, the United States, and Europe into electric vehicles."

As a result, the GT-R and Fairlady Z, which are sports models, will have to be electrified in the next generation in order to survive.

As fuel economy and noise regulations are tightened, the current GT-R will be discontinued by the end of the year, and the next Z will be hybridized. Below, Mr. Mitsuhiro Kunisawa explains.


The current GT-R will be discontinued by the end of the year.

Nissan has stated that it has set a carbon-neutral target for 2050 and that it will make all new models launched in major markets from the early 2030s electric vehicles.

In other words, it will clear both the 2050 carbon neutral that Prime Minister Suga announced in his statement of belief and the Tokyo Governor Koike's "stop selling pure gasoline in 2035." Appearance with both faces.

I would like to analyze the specific content. First of all, what is worrisome for car lovers is the trend of the GT-R and the next Fairlady Z, which has already announced its style.

Although it is a GT-R, it seems that it cannot clear "Phase 3" of the noise regulation that will come into effect from 2022. The criteria for Phase 3 are extremely strict, and the power unit must be "almost silent".

No, even if the noise from the power unit can be reduced, the regulation cannot be cleared by the tire running noise with high-performance tires. The current GT-R will be discontinued by the end of 2021.

By the way, it is strict because it is obligatory to clear noise regulations and even continuous production vehicles. If you are thinking of purchasing the GT-R, order it before the discontinuation is announced.

The next GT-R will be a pure EV !? Tesla now releases the Model S with over 1000 horsepower

The next GT-R will be reborn as an EV sports car like the Porsche Taycan and Tesla Model S (expected CG created by the best car)
When asked if there is a next-generation GT-R, answer "Yes!" Without any reason. There are many opinions within Nissan that "GT-R is necessary", and maybe it has already started development for commercial use.


Of course, I don't think it's a half-finished eco-friendly car like a hybrid or PHV. Even if such a power unit is released in 2025, it will only sell for 5 years.

Naturally it will be a pure electric car. High-performance cars can now be made even as electric cars. On the contrary, the electric car may be more suitable for GT-R.

The Tesla Model S has a minor change to increase the motor output to 1020 horsepower! Since the maximum speed is 320km / h, it surpasses the current GT-R and accelerates from 0 to 100km / h in 2.1 seconds! 

2.1 seconds is different from the story and dimension that GT-R is less than 3 seconds. It's faster than the acceleration of an F1 car. The new Tesla Roadster is 0-100km / h in 2 seconds. It is said that it will take less than 9 seconds with 0-400m acceleration.

Just as the current GT-R aimed for the fastest Nürburgring on the market, the new GT-R would be interesting if it aimed for a car faster than Tesla.

Nissan is also developing an all-solid-state battery that has more than three times the performance of current lithium-ion batteries. If realized, it is possible to have higher performance than Tesla. For electric vehicles, the only noise regulation is tires.

I managed to clear it, and I can afford the corporate average fuel consumption CAFE2030. It is an electrified vehicle certified by the Tokyo Metropolitan Government, and can continue until it is carbon-free in 2050.

New Fairlady Z from pure gasoline specifications to HV


How about the Fairlady Z, which is scheduled to be released in 2022? This car is a model that was considered to be sold in the United States, which had become a fuel economy regulation for Yuruyuru during President Trump's time.

That's why both the platform and the engine combine existing items. However, he became President Biden and changed his policy 180 degrees. We are about to become an environmentally friendly country.

Probably not thinking about selling for a long time from the beginning. At most 5 years. No, the Fairlady Z, which runs only on the engine for about 3 years at the shortest, has no model life.

In the second or third year, it will be upgraded to the same hybrid as the Skyline (Infiniti Q50), and it will be sold until around 2030 when strict fuel efficiency regulations will start.


Nissan is solid with EV + e-POWER! The question is "whether you can make a fun car"

Announced carbon neutral goals for 2050. Announced the innovation of batteries including new e-POWER and all-solid-state batteries, the utilization of renewable energy and the development of recycling technology to achieve the goal.
It may be disappointing to read this far, but I don't think it will be dark tomorrow for Nissan. This is because Nissan is good at electrification technology. The 2030 CAFE, which has become a strict regulation value, can be sufficiently cleared with an electric vehicle + e-POWER.

At the time of the Tokyo Metropolitan Government regulation in 2035, it would be all electrified. No, is it an all-electric environment before 2030?

There is no problem with making all carbon-free cars in 2050 electric vehicles. I think that I announced the goal setting like the beginning of the sentence because I have already made a long-term plan such as.

 
The question is whether we can make a fun car. Considering only practicality, price competition will occur. However, if you can create a brand image, you can sell high value-added products.

Let's say you made a women's bag with similar materials and functions. 100,000 yen for famous European brands. A Japanese bag costs 20,000 yen at most. I think the same is true for electric vehicles.

If you are making popular products, you cannot beat China. I think it will be important to be able to create high value. If it can be realized, Nissan will prosper, and it will be tough if it comes to compete in price competition.

https://bestcarweb.jp/news/243426

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[B]Looks like you won't have long to buy a Z35 with the VR30TT.

So like around the normal amount of time most models are on sale for? Did you want another embarrassing 12 year run?

Unlike most of the dinos running around here I find the hybrid interesting. The next GTR should be a hybrid following in the footsteps of the hyper-hybrids already out. As more and more high performance hybrids hit the road you need to be on board or left behind.
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New Z delayed to 2023.

https://daxstreet.com/cars/1925/niss...-need-to-know/
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if they delay the Z past coming out in 2021 it is dead. just dont even release it and waste your time.
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if they delay the Z past coming out in 2021 it is dead. just dont even release it and waste your time.
It’s a legit site. Other car news sites are now reporting the same including Carbuzz:


https://carbuzz.com/news/nissan-400z...-images-emerge

I agree with you. This does not look good for the new Z’s future.
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Nissan will not be the only one in this boat. Automobile manufacturing has hit the skids due to the pandemic and trade issues. Production of car parts were cut due to the refocus manufacturing mask ventilators and other stuff. Micro chips were redirect for other products such as Xbox an PS. I just literally just got out of a Zoom meeting with fleet representative that gave us a presentation on the state of affairs within the auto industry so if you have a late model car that needs repair now or in the future....buckle up! No pun intended.

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It’s a legit site. Other car news sites are now reporting the same including Carbuzz:


https://carbuzz.com/news/nissan-400z...-images-emerge

I agree with you. This does not look good for the new Z’s future.
"Aug 28, 2020" Story is a bit old.

Not saying the Z won't be further delayed, just saying that old story doesn't back up the more recent one, which may have in fact referenced that old story.

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