Time to start a new Z36 thread? I'd buy this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpgVTSCor5Q
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09-20-2020, 05:56 PM | #5896 (permalink) |
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Time to start a new Z36 thread?
I'd buy this.
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The thing that throws me off is that they have the big GTR brakes on the Z Proto. If those actually make it to production that tells me that the car must have over 400HP. As cool as they are, I think it is a bit overkill for a 400-425hp car. The regular Akebono brakes would be just fine for that power range. And honestly I'd rather have the Akebono brakes since the GTR brakes are heftier on your wallet for maintenance. And to add to that, I agree that the exterior design isn't completely finished. I can say with 97.35958% certainty the side crevices in the Z Proto will be either vents or LED DRLs. And I'm sure we won't see that big plain square. The rear may be production ready, they might tweak a few things, but I think that will be very close to the production car. I'm sure the interior is production ready, which I'm perfectly fine with. Last edited by Andaesthetics; 09-20-2020 at 08:10 PM. |
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09-20-2020, 09:32 PM | #5900 (permalink) |
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I'm curious as to why they didn't go with a design closer to these concepts.
The 1st one looks similar to the Proto, but more crisp and aggressive. The 2nd definitely looks like more of a concept and less realistic in terms of bringing that design to life. The 3rd I like how the rear end slopes more off the roof line straight towards the taillights and creates that ledge then angles back in and almost straight down to the diffuser and exhaust tips. Where as with the Proto, the middle-bottom area protrudes out, creating that hump. IMO, instead of focusing on making it look like the older Zs, they should've designed the Proto with more of these cool, concept designs without going over the top. I think this would've appealed to more people for sure. I know most of the time concept designs aren't possible to create because of regulations, engineering, and what have you. However, looking at other cars of today especially supercars and hypercars, they have a lot of crazy, sharp, and concept-like looking designs while still making it to production, passing regulation, and being road legal. So, again while I fully understand it is not possible to put an entire concept into production, it is definitely possible to implement more of these conceptual design elements. I feel they just decided not to. I like the overall look and aesthetic of the car, but they did not hit it out of the park by any means. I appreciate the retro looks and styling. I just wish they would've added more of the concept-driven designs with less retro/throwback styling, but that's just my personal taste. And who knows maybe they'll make changes and add some more conceptual details come production time. |
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09-21-2020, 12:12 AM | #5902 (permalink) |
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I imagine these is a lot of stuff that flies over our heads as forum posters as opposed to industrial designers, and then the engineers (from mechanical to value engineering) that have to call for revisions.
I do like how some alternate concepts and interpretations layer the rear spoiler/decklid over the rear surface. And then they have more continuity about finishing the front lines. The Proto Z is already a bit longer than the Z34, so those appealing renditions might not really be feasible from a manufacturer standpoint unless we see it in the form of a Nismo package. But as many have said, time will tell. Despite what was said in the announcement, I wouldn't be surprised if the styling takes a jump like the Concept Show GT-R from 2001 to the Proto in 2007. |
09-21-2020, 12:21 AM | #5903 (permalink) |
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Back in the days of the Grip Z coupe concept &when Nissan talked to Jay Leno.
They talked about having a more pure sports car drive, yet with more grand touring usability. They wanted to build a car Mr. K would be proud of as he felt, before he passed, the Z34, had lost the purity of past Z's. So in one of my past analysis back in 2013, I stated that for this Z to have a pure driving experience yet be a good grand tourer. The Z would have to grow 5 to 6 inches in length, and squat down to 51", which would make it big enough to get a 240z sized trunk but yet be small enough to stay nimble. I also said nissan would have to stretch the wheelbase to about 104". I wasnt far off from reality. This Z proto is 172.5" long 51.6 inches high, which means a nismo model would be around 51" high. Havent heard what the wheelbase is yet? But im sure im not far off either... What I did say though was the Z would have to decrease in weight from its first year weights which were 3232lbs manual base 3280lbs auto. So im hoping we'd see at least 3120 base manual and 3200 auto. This i have less confidence in. Figuring another 80 lbs for the sport pkg and 120lbs for the nismo. Maxing it out at no more than 3400lbs for the big boy? But im probably too hopeful in this dept? Either way I can dream and it is nice going down a checklist of more things nissan has done right instead of a checklist of what they did wrong. And yes. Im prating the front end is a prototype only and they embolden the cars beautiful lines on the side. It would also be nice to see a surpriss announcement of a 2500lb idx with the qx30 engine boosted to about 240hp and DCT going for 30k. Nissan needs to go back to its roots. They can call it the 200sx. The maxima name is supposed to be dying off. Well, here's a chance to make a real sports sedan out of the altima or kick in with a futuristic sport sedan. Cuz the only way the Z will really sell well? Is if the whole lineup, updates into interesting cars in all price ranges.
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2:17 mark, oil temp, oil pressure, diff temp, and looks like a boost gauge where the triplets are. Never paid attention to all the press release videos until this time, sorry if it’s already old news.
Bigger front tires too, that’s nice.
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I dont like small, short wheelbase sports cars. But as for the weight, I doubt it would lighter. Since they are using the same chassis as the 370z. And they have to improve on that. I'll be in my bunk!
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I agree! Making the Z longer, while still shorter is quite a Nissan engineering feat. The width, well yeah not so much. |
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You believe a Viper is a smaller car. Wheelbase of 98", Body height 49", Weight 3375 lbs, Length 176", Width 76".
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