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It sure appears from the posts ,that the 400Z PROTO has caused some big excitement. However,lets get down to the reality of today's car business. What is the total market

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Old 09-18-2020, 11:53 AM   #5836 (permalink)
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It sure appears from the posts ,that the 400Z PROTO has caused some big excitement.
However,lets get down to the reality of today's car business.
What is the total market for a 2 seater ,manual shift ,RWD vehicle that will cost say,
40K--50k?
Add in the competition out there etc.
For sure,there are the die hard Z people out there such as me that owned a 70' 240Z,
733&Z34.We may have interest in the new 400Z.
But the importance to car companies are the NUMBERS sold.

That is a major factor why Nissan hedged their bets a bit by using a ready platform
and other parts bin stuff.
For example recently Kia recently released a great car,the Stinger. I've driven one.
Twin turbo 6,AWD,great finish. Great reviews from all the media.
But,just cannot sell e'm. Few takers. Probably will go away shortly.

There is always a break even number financially.
Hopefully the 400Z will make it.
Cannot wait to see one in person.
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Ok, can we go with ALL digital then? Having the tri cluster in analog looks as dumb as that digital clock and the Atari era thingy in my 370z.
I just wish the analog guages had oil pressure but at least they have it on the digital cluster now.
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It sure appears from the posts ,that the 400Z PROTO has caused some big excitement.
However,lets get down to the reality of today's car business.
What is the total market for a 2 seater ,manual shift ,RWD vehicle that will cost say,
40K--50k?
Add in the competition out there etc.
For sure,there are the die hard Z people out there such as me that owned a 70' 240Z,
733&Z34.We may have interest in the new 400Z.
But the importance to car companies are the NUMBERS sold.

That is a major factor why Nissan hedged their bets a bit by using a ready platform
and other parts bin stuff.
For example recently Kia recently released a great car,the Stinger. I've driven one.
Twin turbo 6,AWD,great finish. Great reviews from all the media.
But,just cannot sell e'm. Few takers. Probably will go away shortly.

There is always a break even number financially.
Hopefully the 400Z will make it.
Cannot wait to see one in person.
I test drove a stinger before I bought my 370. Very cheap feeling. Reminded me of my wife’s Forte. Performance? Absolutely! Just felt cheap to me. YMMV.
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Just stopping by to see if you guys are losing your **** over the new release lol

My .01 cents.. Seems like a modded z34 chassis so far...

Alright peace.
It doesn’t seem like it....IT IS lol

The only way it makes any financial sense to make this car now is to use the current parts bins, which is fine by me.

I imagine the longest process of this creation was probably the exterior design. Everything else under the skin was already 90% ready to go.
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it sure appears from the posts ,that the 400z proto has caused some big excitement.
However,lets get down to the reality of today's car business.
What is the total market for a 2 seater ,manual shift ,rwd vehicle that will cost say,
40k--50k?
Add in the competition out there etc.
For sure,there are the die hard z people out there such as me that owned a 70' 240z,
733&z34.we may have interest in the new 400z.
But the importance to car companies are the numbers sold.

That is a major factor why nissan hedged their bets a bit by using a ready platform
and other parts bin stuff.
For example recently kia recently released a great car,the stinger. I've driven one.
Twin turbo 6,awd,great finish. Great reviews from all the media.
But,just cannot sell e'm. Few takers. Probably will go away shortly.

There is always a break even number financially.
Hopefully the 400z will make it.
Cannot wait to see one in person.
50k +
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The more video's and pictures I see. It's slowly growing on me. In a away, I like the color. In one light it's yellow. change the lighting, you see green. Wonder what it looks like in all one color, no black roof and chrome strip. Hoping they change the bumpers on the Nismo version like they do now.
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The more video's and pictures I see. It's slowly growing on me. In a away, I like the color. In one light it's yellow. change the lighting, you see green. Wonder what it looks like in all one color, no black roof and chrome strip. Hoping they change the bumpers on the Nismo version like they do now.

I'm liking it more and more as well.
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honestly i dont think being there in person will save the rear. that big gap is just bad. the light area should just be enlarged to fill the space better. to me it just looks like a bad rendition of 240sx rear lights.

also, i keep seeing that random small body piece that is between the hood and fender just looks lazy like why? lol
I agree, that corner where the a pillar meets the fender and hood should have been pulled out to meet the fender like they did with the 370z. This one peice just looks out of place.
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The more video's and pictures I see. It's slowly growing on me. In a away, I like the color. In one light it's yellow. change the lighting, you see green. Wonder what it looks like in all one color, no black roof and chrome strip. Hoping they change the bumpers on the Nismo version like they do now.
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Also, a closeup of the grille shows that it isn't even completely open behind there. There is a think body structure (I presume for rigidity and safety) behind part of the grille. So in reality they could add something there to separate the big rectangle.
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If I wanted a "Big Mouth" fake front grille, I would just buy a Toyota or a Lexus.
They really know how to endow the front end of a car with black plastic.
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The crash bar is behind the blocked off section. Looks like it's open above and below that section.
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I test drove a stinger before I bought my 370. Very cheap feeling. Reminded me of my wife’s Forte. Performance? Absolutely! Just felt cheap to me. YMMV.
Interesting thing on the Stinger.
A "PROTO" was shown several years before the release. Was a much different car. 2 door coupe with great line. Strange headlights.Looked great but you
wondered how they would actually work .Was a concept feature.
The actual car turned out to be a 4 door to compete with BMW etc.
IMO,Kia is not seen as a performance car company.The public is just not
accepting this. Much the same as Cadillac going into performance. Its
rep is to cater to the older driver.
On the other hand.Porsche has been selling the same car(911)for decades.
Just doing upgrades
Smart
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Interesting fact on the 6spd manual.
Maybe Nissan was digging back in the Z tradition.
The original 1970 240Z was available ONLY with a manual(4spd).
Beginning in 1971, a 3spd auto was available.
I owned a 70 240 in a awful orange color.
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The more video's and pictures I see. It's slowly growing on me. In a away, I like the color. In one light it's yellow. change the lighting, you see green. Wonder what it looks like in all one color, no black roof and chrome strip. Hoping they change the bumpers on the Nismo version like they do now.
The black roof...
Since this is a proto,possibly there will be several packages available.
There usually are.
The black could be an option.Done in carbon fiber.
Could be a bit tricky though as carbon roofs do not hold up well.
The B-pillars also would be in a carbon option.
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The black roof...
Since this is a proto,possibly there will be several packages available.
There usually are.
The black could be an option.Done in carbon fiber.
Could be a bit tricky though as carbon roofs do not hold up well.
The B-pillars also would be in a carbon option.
Another piece of Z trivia:
The yellow color of the PROTO.
A friend of mine back in the day also owned a 70 240Z.
It was in sunshine yellow. One of the Datsun factory colors.
Looked very similar to the PROTO yellow.
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