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It sure appears from the posts ,that the 400Z PROTO has caused some big excitement. However,lets get down to the reality of today's car business. What is the total market

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Old 09-18-2020, 10:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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It sure appears from the posts ,that the 400Z PROTO has caused some big excitement.
However,lets get down to the reality of today's car business.
What is the total market for a 2 seater ,manual shift ,RWD vehicle that will cost say,
40K--50k?
Add in the competition out there etc.
For sure,there are the die hard Z people out there such as me that owned a 70' 240Z,
733&Z34.We may have interest in the new 400Z.
But the importance to car companies are the NUMBERS sold.

That is a major factor why Nissan hedged their bets a bit by using a ready platform
and other parts bin stuff.
For example recently Kia recently released a great car,the Stinger. I've driven one.
Twin turbo 6,AWD,great finish. Great reviews from all the media.
But,just cannot sell e'm. Few takers. Probably will go away shortly.

There is always a break even number financially.
Hopefully the 400Z will make it.
Cannot wait to see one in person.
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It sure appears from the posts ,that the 400Z PROTO has caused some big excitement.
However,lets get down to the reality of today's car business.
What is the total market for a 2 seater ,manual shift ,RWD vehicle that will cost say,
40K--50k?
Add in the competition out there etc.
For sure,there are the die hard Z people out there such as me that owned a 70' 240Z,
733&Z34.We may have interest in the new 400Z.
But the importance to car companies are the NUMBERS sold.

That is a major factor why Nissan hedged their bets a bit by using a ready platform
and other parts bin stuff.
For example recently Kia recently released a great car,the Stinger. I've driven one.
Twin turbo 6,AWD,great finish. Great reviews from all the media.
But,just cannot sell e'm. Few takers. Probably will go away shortly.

There is always a break even number financially.
Hopefully the 400Z will make it.
Cannot wait to see one in person.
I test drove a stinger before I bought my 370. Very cheap feeling. Reminded me of my wife’s Forte. Performance? Absolutely! Just felt cheap to me. YMMV.
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I test drove a stinger before I bought my 370. Very cheap feeling. Reminded me of my wife’s Forte. Performance? Absolutely! Just felt cheap to me. YMMV.
Interesting thing on the Stinger.
A "PROTO" was shown several years before the release. Was a much different car. 2 door coupe with great line. Strange headlights.Looked great but you
wondered how they would actually work .Was a concept feature.
The actual car turned out to be a 4 door to compete with BMW etc.
IMO,Kia is not seen as a performance car company.The public is just not
accepting this. Much the same as Cadillac going into performance. Its
rep is to cater to the older driver.
On the other hand.Porsche has been selling the same car(911)for decades.
Just doing upgrades
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it sure appears from the posts ,that the 400z proto has caused some big excitement.
However,lets get down to the reality of today's car business.
What is the total market for a 2 seater ,manual shift ,rwd vehicle that will cost say,
40k--50k?
Add in the competition out there etc.
For sure,there are the die hard z people out there such as me that owned a 70' 240z,
733&z34.we may have interest in the new 400z.
But the importance to car companies are the numbers sold.

That is a major factor why nissan hedged their bets a bit by using a ready platform
and other parts bin stuff.
For example recently kia recently released a great car,the stinger. I've driven one.
Twin turbo 6,awd,great finish. Great reviews from all the media.
But,just cannot sell e'm. Few takers. Probably will go away shortly.

There is always a break even number financially.
Hopefully the 400z will make it.
Cannot wait to see one in person.
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The more video's and pictures I see. It's slowly growing on me. In a away, I like the color. In one light it's yellow. change the lighting, you see green. Wonder what it looks like in all one color, no black roof and chrome strip. Hoping they change the bumpers on the Nismo version like they do now.
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The more video's and pictures I see. It's slowly growing on me. In a away, I like the color. In one light it's yellow. change the lighting, you see green. Wonder what it looks like in all one color, no black roof and chrome strip. Hoping they change the bumpers on the Nismo version like they do now.

I'm liking it more and more as well.
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The more video's and pictures I see. It's slowly growing on me. In a away, I like the color. In one light it's yellow. change the lighting, you see green. Wonder what it looks like in all one color, no black roof and chrome strip. Hoping they change the bumpers on the Nismo version like they do now.
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Also, a closeup of the grille shows that it isn't even completely open behind there. There is a think body structure (I presume for rigidity and safety) behind part of the grille. So in reality they could add something there to separate the big rectangle.
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Also, a closeup of the grille shows that it isn't even completely open behind there. There is a think body structure (I presume for rigidity and safety) behind part of the grille. So in reality they could add something there to separate the big rectangle.
The crash bar is behind the blocked off section. Looks like it's open above and below that section.
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The more video's and pictures I see. It's slowly growing on me. In a away, I like the color. In one light it's yellow. change the lighting, you see green. Wonder what it looks like in all one color, no black roof and chrome strip. Hoping they change the bumpers on the Nismo version like they do now.
The black roof...
Since this is a proto,possibly there will be several packages available.
There usually are.
The black could be an option.Done in carbon fiber.
Could be a bit tricky though as carbon roofs do not hold up well.
The B-pillars also would be in a carbon option.
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The black roof...
Since this is a proto,possibly there will be several packages available.
There usually are.
The black could be an option.Done in carbon fiber.
Could be a bit tricky though as carbon roofs do not hold up well.
The B-pillars also would be in a carbon option.
Another piece of Z trivia:
The yellow color of the PROTO.
A friend of mine back in the day also owned a 70 240Z.
It was in sunshine yellow. One of the Datsun factory colors.
Looked very similar to the PROTO yellow.
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My opinion.. I'm trying to figure out how to justify owning two sports cars now.. I'm really liking the Proto. No way I'm ditching my 350 that I've owned and modded ever since buying new in 2006. But the Proto has me pretty excited.

As for the grill, no offense 370 owners, but it's better than the fangs.

Maybe I need to investigate building an extension on to my garage..
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My opinion.. I'm trying to figure out how to justify owning two sports cars now.. I'm really liking the Proto. No way I'm ditching my 350 that I've owned and modded ever since buying new in 2006. But the Proto has me pretty excited.

As for the grill, no offense 370 owners, but it's better than the fangs.

Maybe I need to investigate building an extension on to my garage..
I am a bit like you.
Have my 03 350 that I bought new in 2002.Heavy mods to exterior and every tech bolt incl. total Nismo stuff.
My 370 is pretty much stock.Always saw it as a refined version of the Z33.
Styling wise save for the interior,the Z33 is best from every angle.Got dated somewhat. My mods helped. Actually,looks a bit like the PROTO over the top.
Came close to buying a GTR. It was a beast to drive!.The styling just did nothing for me. Side view looks like a Dodge model.
Not interested in buying.
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