Nissan, unfortunately, probably won't put a DCT in the standard Z. I could see it in a Nismo though. Standard automatics are no where near as good as DCTs. No
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Nissan, unfortunately, probably won't put a DCT in the standard Z. I could see it in a Nismo though.
Standard automatics are no where near as good as DCTs. No matter what they say. Only the ZF is close, but even that depends largely on programming skills, and even then DCTs are still much better under serious manual performance conditions. |
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I remember when the 370 was finally unveiled way back when. The 350 owners all hated the boomerang headlights and tail lights. I distinctly remember someone posting on the 350z forum "Well boys, looks like our cars all went up in value."
Nissan hasn't even shown off the z35 fully yet and people are complaining I'm willing to wait and see. As much as I love my 370, I'm looking forward to more horsepower and the rest of the goodies. |
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The profile of the car is more elongated. The bulkiness of the 370 does not exist in this new car. The hood is longer. I don't see the overall similarity of shape. I see hints but it looks like a different car to me.
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I said this two years ago, maybe longer... What they are doing is the equivalent of taking a Vietnam era cobra helicopter and updating it with newer tech and power, then call it a super cobra. You can save costs this way instead of designing a whole new air frame that works. The chassis works on the 370Z, save cost and revise what you have. It'll still be a great car, especially if it is an improvement of the great car we already have. Why not?
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Its prolly gonna have to be 55k, at least as an msrp. I can see a nismo being subsidized down to $51k. But only cuz of the competition. Remember, you still will have a 400ho Z at under 40k. Its more hp than the supra for 10k less. But nissan has to sell the nismo higher. Rumor has it a nismo could be between 450 n 500 hp? So that may be an incentive if rumor pulls true?
The c8 and Z comparison isn't the best comparison cuz its attracting 2 sides of the enthusiast world. Price comparison does have some legitimacy. But having a Supra n Z out is like having a mustang n camaro. A lot of people will be in it for that 90's heritage. If mazda does an rx or whatever with that inline 6. Its gonna be JDM wars all over again. And I think a lot of guys between 35 n 55 are looking for a JDM WAR 2. The next gen GTR, 86 and wax all coming soon too. Japan may have a small comeback. The corvette has no price competition. It battles cars above its weight class. And there will be a market for those guys too. The real question is... can these cars bring the culture back? Or these beta male soy boy pansies are gonna destroy the culture with hybrids n EV's? Im just glad sports cars aren't dead... yet!!!
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