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Old 09-20-2020, 12:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Although my state (Oregon) requires a front license plate, I've always kept it under the front seat with the mount kit and never had an issue [knock on wood] with the authorities.

I am curious if a license plate were attached to the front of the Z Proto exactly how that would break up the design of the grill? Seems like it would land where the smaller "blocked" inlets are, down to the larger lower inlets.

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looks too much like stinger, can someone photoshop the v1 nismo bumper style? ( AND duckbill wing on rear)

The duckbill is there, you just can't see it from this angle.


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Daaaang, awesome edit, but ya, looks weird, doesnt match the headlight lines.

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for the rear i was hoping for something along these lines heh
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I have been out of the car game for quite some time now so activity on the forum is nearly zilch. I had to see what you all were thinking of the new Z. I am posting my thoughts before reading anyone else’s and only based on the front, rear, and side profile shots I have seen on google images. I am doing it this way to make sure I don’t get any influence outside of my own first impressions.

I personally feel like this car was designed by 3 different people that had zero communication between each other. The side profile is great and looks like a generational step to the next Z car. It has a very modern feel to it. The rear is also nice and gives me a very retro vibe, something I was looking forward to with a new Z. How ever this is where it starts to lose me. It just does not flow with a straight side profile, or angled rear and side profile. Maybe it’s the black between the lights? It is almost too retro compared to the very modern flowing side. This brings me to the front. I am not totally decided on it. Straight on it kinda looks like a train wreck to me. With design elements of three different Z cars. An angled side profile does do it some justice though as the headlight and hood design fits well with the modern side profile.

In closing before this turns into gibberish, less is more. The car feels and looks like three different generations of Z cars mashed together in sections. They are all such a generational leap that the designs do not mesh well. Earlier concepts that stuck to a retro modern design were so much better. Another car that done it well IMO is the Dodge Challenger.

Anyway im a bit disappointed. Something huge to take note of though is the fact that I couldn’t stand the 370Z at launch either, and within a year owned two. It grew on me though because I was finally able to see the mesh of old and new. I hope this one does the same. I’m afraid it will not though because I had the same feelings about the new Supra and that car still disgusts me.
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What's funny is this: The 370z has become MORE beautiful not just because it's grown on people, but because it's a simple design while other vehicles have gone the ADHD styling route.

I'm a bit torn... If I could have a VR30 swap into my 370z along with that updated 6 speed, that would be great....

Hoping final updates will be an improvement...

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I have been out of the car game for quite some time now so activity on the forum is nearly zilch. I had to see what you all were thinking of the new Z. I am posting my thoughts before reading anyone else’s and only based on the front, rear, and side profile shots I have seen on google images. I am doing it this way to make sure I don’t get any influence outside of my own first impressions.

I personally feel like this car was designed by 3 different people that had zero communication between each other. The side profile is great and looks like a generational step to the next Z car. It has a very modern feel to it. The rear is also nice and gives me a very retro vibe, something I was looking forward to with a new Z. How ever this is where it starts to lose me. It just does not flow with a straight side profile, or angled rear and side profile. Maybe it’s the black between the lights? It is almost too retro compared to the very modern flowing side. This brings me to the front. I am not totally decided on it. Straight on it kinda looks like a train wreck to me. With design elements of three different Z cars. An angled side profile does do it some justice though as the headlight and hood design fits well with the modern side profile.

In closing before this turns into gibberish, less is more. The car feels and looks like three different generations of Z cars mashed together in sections. They are all such a generational leap that the designs do not mesh well. Earlier concepts that stuck to a retro modern design were so much better. Another car that done it well IMO is the Dodge Challenger.

Anyway im a bit disappointed. Something huge to take note of though is the fact that I couldn’t stand the 370Z at launch either, and within a year owned two. It grew on me though because I was finally able to see the mesh of old and new. I hope this one does the same. I’m afraid it will not though because I had the same feelings about the new Supra and that car still disgusts me.
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What's funny is this: The 370z has become MORE beautiful not just because it's grown on people, but because it's a simple design while other vehicles have gone the ADHD styling route.

I'm a bit torn... If I could have a VR30 swap into my 370z along with that updated 6 speed, that would be great....

Hoping final updates will be an improvement...
There are VR30 swapped 6MT cars out there:

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I agree as long as I can find out which parts fit my 370Z, find someone to ride with me on the test drive so the salesperson cannot, and take it home to switch out whatever parts make sense for me

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I personally feel like this car was designed by 3 different people that had zero communication between each other.
I'm not sure I could agree more on this point. There is nothing that I truly hate, but there is nothing that I can totally get on board with due to the lack of flow (I would love to be wrong when I see it in person). The VR30TT and manual do pique my interest, but the lack of power compared to my current Z are very much derailing that interest (not that I'm in the market, but if I was...). The 10+hp per $1000 in the Z offering is an unmatched value across the board for me. I would never buy a Corvette, but I'd be cross-shopping the C8 and buying that in a heartbeat compared to the limited info about the proposed new Z34.5 :shrug: Prove me wrong, Nissan.
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I'm not sure I could agree more on this point. There is nothing that I truly hate, but there is nothing that I can totally get on board with due to the lack of flow (I would love to be wrong when I see it in person). The VR30TT and manual do pique my interest, but the lack of power compared to my current Z are very much derailing that interest (not that I'm in the market, but if I was...). The 10+hp per $1000 in the Z offering is an unmatched value across the board for me. I would never buy a Corvette, but I'd be cross-shopping the C8 and buying that in a heartbeat compared to the limited info about the proposed new Z34.5 :shrug: Prove me wrong, Nissan.
I agree that the HP#/$ is low comparatively to C8, Camaro etc, but since the engine (hopefully) will be a variation of the VR30, you can expect much higher gains from Bolt-Ons and butt-dyno gains. I moved over to single turbo S4, similar hp to 370z, but alot more torque and with simple boltons (Intake, exhaust, BOV), both sound/performance has increased so much more then did when i did full bolt-ons plus tune on my 370z.

Just check out some q60 sport/red sport dynos with simple bolt ons and you'll see the massive tuning advantages of FI.

I can't wait for Fast Intentions to do their magic with the exhaust. Loved it on my 370z and they sound amazing on the VR Q''s currently.
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I agree that the HP#/$ is low comparatively to C8, Camaro etc, but since the engine (hopefully) will be a variation of the VR30, you can expect much higher gains from Bolt-Ons and butt-dyno gains. I moved over to single turbo S4, similar hp to 370z, but alot more torque and with simple boltons (Intake, exhaust, BOV), both sound/performance has increased so much more then did when i did full bolt-ons plus tune on my 370z.

Just check out some q60 sport/red sport dynos with simple bolt ons and you'll see the massive tuning advantages of FI.

I can't wait for Fast Intentions to do their magic with the exhaust. Loved it on my 370z and they sound amazing on the VR Q''s currently.
Same experience as you. I went from a full bolt-on/tuned 370z to a N54 335i and never looked back. I was always against FI prior. The Z cost me way more $ in mods and was never even close to the 335i even when it just had downpipes and a OTS tune.

I'm really excited for the new Z.
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I agree that the HP#/$ is low comparatively to C8, Camaro etc, but since the engine (hopefully) will be a variation of the VR30, you can expect much higher gains from Bolt-Ons and butt-dyno gains. I moved over to single turbo S4, similar hp to 370z, but alot more torque and with simple boltons (Intake, exhaust, BOV), both sound/performance has increased so much more then did when i did full bolt-ons plus tune on my 370z.

Just check out some q60 sport/red sport dynos with simple bolt ons and you'll see the massive tuning advantages of FI.

I can't wait for Fast Intentions to do their magic with the exhaust. Loved it on my 370z and they sound amazing on the VR Q''s currently.
Nissan is expected to price this car
right. It will be a 400hp car priced in the range of a 4 cylinder supra. Undercutting Toyota by a high margin. And with the option of manual? If Toyota doesn't offer a manual by next model year? You will see loads of supra trade in's at Nissan dealerships.

As far as the corvette goes. The c8 now, is what the z34 was... a standalone car. The corvettes competitors are about $100,000 above its weight class. So the Z35 will in no shape way or form be a corvette competitor.
The camaro and mustang drive like sports cars instead of muscle cars. Since 2013, the American market has dominated the foreign market. We haven't seen anything like this since the Buick Grand National and the Pontaic Firebird GTA.
But even still... i don't see this Z as a direct competitor to muscle. I see the Supra & Z as its own rivalry revisited. And hopefully mazda & Mitsubishi will bring their competitors into the fight.

I fell in love with the Q60 engine. And I have wet dreams about the VR30 getting a real transmission & stiffer chassis thats lacking in the Q60. Also. If the development of the Z somehow improves the Q60 drastically in its refresh? Will the Z be the car to buy? Or the Q60? Cuz the Q60 is gorgeous!! Its going to be an interesting year.
Chevy patented a high compression 5.7 pushrod 350cu v8. So we may even see another American sleeper??? Im just glad that the sports car arena is finally perking up and we are seeing new options.

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/it-does...w-nissan-400z/

On another note. People are hatinv on the Proto Z. Smh.

1. Its a proto. So there's room for improvement.
2. With all the whining for a manual car? Nissan DELIVERED!!
3. The overall shape is beautiful despite a desperate need for aesthetic and physical improvements being needed.
4. 400hp 2seat coupe in the low 40k range? Who else is doing it at that price?

This is what i hate about the American enthusiast market.
We are the least enthusiastic and least satisfied, then wonder why we dont get foreign nations best cars!!
People are ridiculous.
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I agree as long as I can find out which parts fit my 370Z, find someone to ride with me on the test drive so the salesperson cannot, and take it home to switch out whatever parts make sense for me .
Get the lift or QJ ready, 8 buddies, your garage...., Gone In 60 Seconds style. Sales guy get the car back, feels kinda odd but no idea why lol.....seats, shift knob, control arms, steering wheel, brake calipers + rotors, motor and tranny all swapped muhahahaha
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Sorry for the back to back posts but I just watched the video someone posted of a live walk around. Angled shots of the car are still the best thing going for it. Actually breath taking. It’s amazing how much better it all looks live vs a photo. I still stand by the front and rear needing some straight on profile adjustments. They scream identity crisis to me. The interior is perfection. It was my first time seeing it.

We have been waiting what seems like an eternity for this Z I hope they get it right. Quickly reading most of the community seems to share the same thought as me. Which doesn’t surprise me, we have great taste ��
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All the talk about the bumpers is silly since it’s gonna be something fixed by the aftermarket

My main takeaway is... this is a ******* z34 with new skin. Look at the greenhouse, look at the interior. Sure, updated bits , but..they didn’t change the platform

Really, I just need to know if they changed the pick points the suspension. Can those GTR brakes be bolted up? Is the suspension changed?

And more importantly, can the drive train fit easily ?

Cuz I’m getting that drivetrain if it does
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My main takeaway is... this is a ******* z34 with new skin. Look at the greenhouse, look at the interior. Sure, updated bits , but..they didn’t change the platform

Really, I just need to know if they changed the pick points the suspension. Can those GTR brakes be bolted up? Is the suspension changed?

And more importantly, can the drive train fit easily ?

Cuz I’m getting that drivetrain if it does
If toyota didnt want to spend billions on a new car, dont expect broke *** nissan to do the same.
No way in hell nissan can afford to be build a new car. Especially for 1 car. Doesnt make any financial sense. Even they weren't broke, they wouldnt have done it.
Let's hope they improved on the current 370z architecture. Well they have no choice but not too.
And even though they are using essentially the same interior, let hope they improve on it.
Imo the interior needs more. Too much of the same 370z

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