[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

Boozx · 11-22-2018, 04:26 PM

That’s some good thoughts. I hope you’re right on pricing and I agree about the Q60 stuff. If they took away the manual that would be a deal breaker for me as well. Hope they don’t.

Look at this article from September coming from Nissan employee alluding to the possibility that they are tasked with the next Z project. Seems like it’s happening...

https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/nis...-gen-z-project

Shoeshear · 11-22-2018, 04:27 PM

I'm with analogman for the most part. All the "next Z" stuff seems purely speculation w/o any real evidence behind it (not counting this recent SEMA VR30 swap).

If they make another Z, I'd guess base will be mid to high 30s at least, possibly into the 40s. Judging from the current pricing scheme, I'd say Nissan will have to rethink if they want to sell and be competitive w/ cars in the same market (camaro, mustang, genesis, etc.). I personally think the Z is a great car as is w/ significant performance, delivered in a classic package, that is decidedly Japanese.

But, the competition has gone up like crazy and 300ish hp doesn't mean anything to anyone. They're gonna need the next Z to be a beast at a reasonable price, and I don't have a whole lot of faith in that unfortunately. And to add to that, Ghosn just got fired for his shady stuff. We shall see.

TLDR: new Z will probably be pricey or dead IMO

JARblue · 11-24-2018, 09:35 AM

Ghosn was trying to drown the Z program. That's why the board got rid of him. Nissan will announce a $40K 500hp Z35 any day now

Firebase99 · 11-24-2018, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

Ghosn was trying to drown the Z program. That's why the board got rid of him. Nissan will announce a $40K 500hp Z35 any day now

Any day meaning never. LOL

RicerX · 11-27-2018, 08:54 AM

Long read, but interesting perspective.

https://nicoclub.com/archives/true-s...ans-new-z.html

Zingston · 11-27-2018, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RicerX

Long read, but interesting perspective.

https://nicoclub.com/archives/true-s...ans-new-z.html

The guy makes some valid points. And he's probably right.

Ghostvette · 11-27-2018, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by RicerX

Long read, but interesting perspective.

https://nicoclub.com/archives/true-s...ans-new-z.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zingston

The guy makes some valid points. And he's probably right.

With Ghosn out, this is probably the path that Nissan/Renault/Mitsubishi take, no new 'halo' or Z until after 2020...

Then they will call it something inane like 'Z Cross', like they did with the Eclipse Cross.....

Uxi · 11-27-2018, 11:11 AM

Overthinking it as always. Keep the GTR as halo car, regardless of sales. Amortize development by using the same base engine in the Z but keep it NA (maybe turdbos for V-Spec or Nismo or whatever) in RWD 2 seater platform.

Zingston · 11-27-2018, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostvette

With Ghosn out, this is probably the path that Nissan/Renault/Mitsubishi take, no new 'halo' or Z until after 2020...

Then they will call it something inane like 'Z Cross', like they did with the Eclipse Cross.....

Exactly!

RicerX · 11-27-2018, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Uxi

turdbos.

Rusty · 11-27-2018, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Zingston

The guy makes some valid points. And he's probably right.

No new Z35 for a long while.

optiontrader · 11-29-2018, 12:20 PM

The NicoClub article was a very good read, and I can understand why a wholesale overhaul of the Z is probably not the best thing financially for Nissan. But could Nissan get the ClubSport into production as an "interim" model (aka Z34.5)? I'd reluctantly agree to the statements that our Z's are dated, but I'd love to transition to that direct injected VR30DDTT - it's a wonderful mill. But with a manual - OMG.

I know... keep wishing...

Felix 808 · 11-29-2018, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

No new Z35 for a long while.

Yep If at all. They pulled the plug once and and more than one car model with decades of produciton have gone the way of the Dodo.

" a new Z is clearly long overdue.According to our sources within Nissan, there’s a small problem: It’s not happening."

Probably a lot of truth in that statement.

goeagles11 · 11-29-2018, 08:41 PM

That article read too much like a young teenager jealous that other websites are making more money than them. Too much complaining and whining.

FPenvy · 11-30-2018, 07:46 AM

wait.........we're still talking about this?

11-24-2018, 09:35 AM	#4248 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	Ghosn was trying to drown the Z program. That's why the board got rid of him. Nissan will announce a $40K 500hp Z35 any day now KCZ and Firebase99 like this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

11-27-2018, 08:54 AM	#4250 (permalink)
RicerX Track Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: TN Posts: 597 Drives: To the Pizza joint. Rep Power: 7720	Long read, but interesting perspective. https://nicoclub.com/archives/true-s...ans-new-z.html Rusty, sx moneypit and Zingston like this.

11-29-2018, 12:20 PM	#4257 (permalink)
optiontrader Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Smog Hell, SoCal Posts: 595 Drives: 40th Rep Power: 16	The NicoClub article was a very good read, and I can understand why a wholesale overhaul of the Z is probably not the best thing financially for Nissan. But could Nissan get the ClubSport into production as an "interim" model (aka Z34.5)? I'd reluctantly agree to the statements that our Z's are dated, but I'd love to transition to that direct injected VR30DDTT - it's a wonderful mill. But with a manual - OMG. I know... keep wishing... sx moneypit likes this. __________________ 40th Anniversary Z - 3M Paint Protection Film, CA Legal Tint! (70/40)

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11-22-2018, 04:26 PM	#4246 (permalink)
Boozx Base Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: Traverse City Posts: 9 Drives: 2014 NISMO black Rep Power: 7	That’s some good thoughts. I hope you’re right on pricing and I agree about the Q60 stuff. If they took away the manual that would be a deal breaker for me as well. Hope they don’t. Look at this article from September coming from Nissan employee alluding to the possibility that they are tasked with the next Z project. Seems like it’s happening... https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/nis...-gen-z-project

11-22-2018, 04:27 PM	#4247 (permalink)
Shoeshear Base Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 127 Drives: '15 370z Sport MT Rep Power: 3363	I'm with analogman for the most part. All the "next Z" stuff seems purely speculation w/o any real evidence behind it (not counting this recent SEMA VR30 swap). If they make another Z, I'd guess base will be mid to high 30s at least, possibly into the 40s. Judging from the current pricing scheme, I'd say Nissan will have to rethink if they want to sell and be competitive w/ cars in the same market (camaro, mustang, genesis, etc.). I personally think the Z is a great car as is w/ significant performance, delivered in a classic package, that is decidedly Japanese. But, the competition has gone up like crazy and 300ish hp doesn't mean anything to anyone. They're gonna need the next Z to be a beast at a reasonable price, and I don't have a whole lot of faith in that unfortunately. And to add to that, Ghosn just got fired for his shady stuff. We shall see. TLDR: new Z will probably be pricey or dead IMO

11-27-2018, 11:11 AM	#4253 (permalink)
Uxi Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Southern California Posts: 301 Drives: 16 NISMO Tech PW 6MT Rep Power: 3598	Overthinking it as always. Keep the GTR as halo car, regardless of sales. Amortize development by using the same base engine in the Z but keep it NA (maybe turdbos for V-Spec or Nismo or whatever) in RWD 2 seater platform.

11-29-2018, 08:41 PM	#4259 (permalink)
goeagles11 Base Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: South Florida Posts: 81 Drives: 2017 370z Sport Rep Power: 8	That article read too much like a young teenager jealous that other websites are making more money than them. Too much complaining and whining.