[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

Volk Z

If it looks like the pic of the red z35 in that article then the z34 just went up in value lol. That thing is hideous.

Its most likely not legit news.

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Rusty

It's been quite for a while on the new Z. So some rag magazine decided to do an article on the new Z with no proof of anything just to generate sales.

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sunkist350z

Your words to Gods ears, hopefully early next year we see a official concept car of the next z.

ramoszx12r

They have to come out with something the GTR is out of sight for must people.
Plus the Z have a nice follow.

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sunkist350z

Both the GT-R and the Z designs almost 10 years, I believe Nissan will show concepts next year for both their legendary supercar and sportscar.

Hotrodz

Here is another article to add to the mix.
https://carbuzz.com/news/the-z-is-co...z-in-the-works

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Carmaker1

While I could blame media outlets for putting out false news since about Jan/Feb of this year regarding a next generation R36 and Z35, I now have to put the onus on Nissan senior executives lying through their teeth and being creative with the truth for PR.

I am taking it many users here were not aware of what I passed on in March regarding both cars and much more at Nissan-Infiniti?

The person responsible for validating 370z accounts dropped the ball and took 2 months to validate my registration here, meaning I had already lost patience and moved on by then out of frustration.

Anyway, the real truth is, Nissan senior management cancelled the Z35 programme in January and head of design personnel (Albaisa), chose to rather cleverly lie and provide a vague statement regarding this, mostly to temper the potential anger of anxious and frustrated Z owners.

From what I am observing, Alfonso keeps doing this and is essentially playing image politics to save face.

If automotive journalists were truly investigative and not the lackadaisical glorified bloggers they've become, they would zero in on this information and save me (and a few others) the trouble of leaking the cancellation.

Instead, I see the opposite from the automotive media and them feeding into this fable, particularly where I've seen some of the dumbest rumours that have been grossly contradictory.

Such as a 2018 Tokyo Auto Show debut...yet there is no Tokyo Motor Show in even years. (I shake my head)

Truthfully, the Z35 programme got underway with early planning in 2011-12, with the styling department fully getting to work in 2012 on target for MY 2016 redesign. However, many hurdles have been met and the programme has been reset a few times.

A final design was approved by early 2017, intended for MY 2021. A very upscale design proposal won the internal competition and was considered internally the best Z design ever, to indeed share CV37 components such as the VR30DDTT and RWD architecture. Price likely would have increased quite a bit for adequate ROI.

Thus, it was cancelled by senior management 8 months ago last January, with the plan to retain the Z34 through 2021 at latest and refresh the R35 GT-R (2021).

I have been trying to explain for the better part of a year, that there is no new Z coming and to ignore EVERY tidbit if it isn't directly the CEO himself, Ghosn, or "honest" source.

Design exec Alfonso Albaisa is spinning things to drum up media interest on both GT-R and Z. There is no next GT-R before 2025 either, also the case for the Z at the moment.

The business case failed for the Z35, in relation to the new EV capable modular architecture that replaces traditional unibody RWD and profit risk. The R36 is in early stages, but has another 6 years to go at minimum.

However the R35 will be facelifted again (repeating myself) and so will the Z34, with a prolonged lifecycle. As I said before, if you are expecting a brand new Z in a few years, it's not happening.

By the time the (newly approved) Z34 refresh (2020 target) launches, all of us (internally and externally) will know if a Z35 has reached full approval for production by senior management.

In the meantime, take what the media puts out with a grain of salt. Up until this summer, Albaisa knew very well the demise of the Z35, yet either to keep up morale and not scare away potential buyers, has created a false narrative to probably convince his bosses and shareholders not to give up on the Z.

The idea was keep it unchanged through 2021, yet now a refresh was approved for a few hundred million to keep it alive longer.

sunkist350z

More info on the 400z, I like the name actually

https://carbuzz.com/news/the-z-is-co...z-in-the-works

Rusty

Going by your time line for if when the new Z appears. Upper management will be retired.

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Rusty

That's a mag rag wishful thinking.

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Carmaker1

Unfortunately, as the process requires 18 to 24 months to design exterior and interior proposals in various stages, parallel to preliminary engineering planning and research. By the time they even get there, it's another 3 years to production (following final design approval), to where most of the budget gets spent.

It always fails after the design is set, like some more high end Infiniti models, like the FX/QX70 was to become a Cayenne/X5 rival (with better roofline) and launch as a 2019 model.

The Z35 business case failed again in January and unfortunately Saikawa is too much of yesman. An executive shakeup is truly what Nissan needs.

Money has been lost by Nissan on some of the most stupid ventures, despite selling so many Rogues, Qashqais, and Altimas. Nissan brand is scaling back in volume (focus on quality), by leaving Mitsubishi to pick up the low end.

You never want a cancellation and then reset/rebooted at Nissan, as their development lead times are the highest among the Japanese. Response time is slow.

The newest Q60 introduced in Q3 of 2016, was already approved in early 2012 (as 2-door "G30t" and "G20t" coupe) and reworked into its final design by the end of 2013 (now Q60).

The new Altima's (L42P) final design was decided on some 36 months ago, yet production just began last month. By comparison Honda, approved the latest Accord design in shorter time. Going from final styling concept in 2015 to Job 1 in 2017. 2019 Altima took from Fall 2015 to August 2018.

Nissan has a hard time balancing good quality with quicker turnaround time, seen by its competitors, especially in the present day. Then when you add 11th hour changes or cancellations, surely that makes these delays huge.

goeagles11

Put down the weed carmaker.

SunnyDays

Huh?
There was a Tokyo Motorshow in 2017....
https://www.tokyo-motorshow.com/en/

JARblue

That's because Tokyo Motor Show ONLY happens in odd years. 2017, being odd, had one. 2018, being even, will not have one. Odd and even are pretty basic concepts

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Reading skill level: Novice

Roll 20 sided dice: You roll a 1. You fumbled and killed yourself....

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