[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

So n essence you're saying. You're speaking for the masses and I'm speaking for 200 forum members.... basically.... smh

I never mentioned the GTR. But the GTR was relatively unchanged for 7 years. It was just tweaked. Considering it's a relatively production car for 100k based mainly on engine and tranny. The GTR is good profit for Nissan.

Let's not forget, the Z has been an infiniti parts bin car for 14 years. I don't really see how R&D has been so costly. The vq was in every infiniti for years until recently. Even the key fobs are identical within the brand.

I don't see any cars that Nissan builds that run on an independent platform like a corvette would. A corvette is NOT parts bin. A Z is if we're going to be realistic in our comparison..

I don't see how a parts bin sports car with a couple of ecu innovations can be such a drain on the Nissan brand?

A Z is one car for a niche segment.

Nissan has versa, sentra Altima maxima rogue Titan NV Leaf Juke and other vehicles where their profit margin is huge. If sports cars were money makers we'd have a bunch of them for sale. Since sports cars are niche, they shouldn't be built for the A TYPICAL. broker who wants to be a poser. U have BMW Porsche Mercedes for that. The Z needs to be built for those 200 drivers you threw to the side and the unspoken minority. That's why sports cars are special.

We are the representatives or ambassadors to the brand at the track, car show , events and on the strip. Sports car buyers sell the brand. People see our cars and walk into dealerships.

Then you have a car like the Juke for $24k with a Z shaped steering wheel Z type accents and people will buy that car as the first stepping stone to getting a Z. That's the long term goal of a car company. Getting the client to start small and trade up to the flagship or halo. The Z sells 2 and 3 cars before it is finally bought in almost half the purchases, if not more? Most people who bought Z's owned a Nissan product at one point. Hence the bread and butter effect.

In the end.... opinions are like azzholes.

I'm passionate about sports cars. In the end I know my money will go to the purest driving experience. 6 years ago. When I made that decision. I chose a Z. I'll be really sad if I can't get another gen of Z cuz they ruined it.

Originally Posted by Nithmo

Man, think what you want, but by the end of the day Nissan isn't doing what you and I want it to do. Sooooo you're clearly not right. Can you provide data suggesting how profitable the GTR is? I didn't think companies released information like that. Seems more like speculation to me, more than anything. I'm not saying you're not right... but where's the proof?

I'm also not speaking for the masses... I'm speaking for Nissan and their likely thoughts on the matter. I honestly don't like it any more than you do.

I'm not sticking up for them, but once again, they're in the business of making money, not stirring souls. We are a non existant segment to them. Feel free to prove me wrong, but seeing as the Z is on year 8 with zero changes, I don't think you have much of an argument.

And are you kidding me? were you expecting a new GTR every 4-5 years? You guys are hilarious. I guess upping the boost and tweaking the car every year isn't sufficient enough. What does it take to please you? Maybe a GTR Nismo for 60k?

You once again are clearly missing the point. I love manual transmissions. I love sports cars. I hate DCTs and CVTs and Autos, and I hate these bland vanilla cars marketed to the masses, but Nissan feels opposite. Because like you said, that's their bread and butter. And they're a publicly traded company that puts profits ahead of everything else, to make returns for their shareholders. Because that's all shareholders care about. Money. Money, money, money. Once again, feel free to prove me wrong. I'll be waiting.