[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

chubbs · 01-28-2017, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

They spoke on that a year or two ago saying they may just switch it to Z and do away with the numbering.

Yes, I've been looking forward to owning a Nissan Z.

For one thing, it'll save me having to say, "Well, actually, it's a 370Z. The 350Z was the previous model, which had a slightly smaller engine. You see, the numbers signify..... blah blah blah blah blah yawn".

Datsun Z · 01-28-2017, 06:30 AM

A 2016 model 370z costs $60000 in Australia now. 5 years ago the price was $65000. We only get the top of the range model here.

I spoke to my local Nissan dealer and a salesman said Nissan will stop making Z cars.

chubbs · 01-28-2017, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Datsun Z

A 2016 model 370z costs $60000 in Australia now. 5 years ago the price was $65000. We only get the top of the range model here.

I spoke to my local Nissan dealer and a salesman said Nissan will stop making Z cars.

A Nissan salesman said they're won't be a new model? That settles it - there definitely WILL be one, in that case. The rumour is confirmed!

triso07 · 01-28-2017, 07:57 AM

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Nithmo
2 transmission options? Sorry, Nissan doesn't sell enough of these to offer that, nor do they make enough money on these to offer that. Yes, I know there's the AT and MT now, but something tells me what you're asking for is cost prohibitive yet again.

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RicerX
The DCTs in Nissan's lineup? Which ones are those? Don't include the GT-R (since the GT-Rs GR6 transmission just won't port over to any other platform Nissan builds). Oh you mean Infiniti? The DCTs that Mercedes builds and provides that are mated to the 2.0L turbo motors also built and provided by Mercedes? Those are supposed to magically mate to some 450hp twin turbo V6 in the sky that Nissan is holding out on for the next gen Z? And handle the torque output? And be lighter than the trans assemblies in the current 370Z?

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JAR blue
And that's a terrible argument. Compared to the Z, your Evo with DCT is still way behind in the sports car market, so it's not even a good comparison. If your DCT (or any other for that matter) just swapped straight into the Z, then sure, there's no excuses for Nissan not to offer one as an option. Except that's not the case. The R&D to create a new DCT (or even a shared DCT) that works in the Z absolutely is not worth it with such low sales figures.

Best case is they develop a DCT to work in another, more marketable vehicle category to help with costs and it works with the new Z platform. Another option might be to design the new Z platform to work with an existing, earlier generation DCT. And yet another option is they change the target price point for the Z to accommodate any and all upgrades, in which case everything is pretty much up in the air as they could go in a number of directions with it. Bottom line is most people think a DCT in the new Z is doubtful, and your argument that it should be is wishful thinking. I don't think you'll find anyone here who thinks a DCT in the Z is a terrible powertrain option.

lol

Be careful when strongly stating opinions as fact, talking as though you're in the know, or speaking in absolute.

jr0065 · 01-28-2017, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by triso07

lol

Be careful when strongly stating opinions as fact, talking as though you're in the know, or speaking in absolute.

Only siths speak in absolutes.

UNKNOWN_370 · 01-28-2017, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by triso07

lol

Be careful when strongly stating opinions as fact, talking as though you're in the know, or speaking in absolute.

It's true, but these guys have well thought-out opinions and I think they are making pretty factually based opinions based on the FM platform and what is availed to that chassis. The probability in what they state is 99%....

HOWEVER....

Nissan stated in 2013 the Z would possibly built on a new MODULAR chassis that would be able to be modified or all drive trains, RWD, FWD & AWD. Which common sense would say, that's why the Grip Z was a mish mash concept of sports car and crossover. In a early 2016 article it was stated that the Nissan juke would be the first car in a 5 car series on this NEW MODULAR PLATFORM.

If in fact the new Z will be the second car to be built on this modular platform? Then in fact all speculation is null and void till we can at least get some feedback on chassis specs from the new platform.

I think it's very possible we get the Benz MCT in the AMG's for our Z? I think DCT is very possible if in fact we get that new chassis for our Z's. Which I think is MOST PROBABLE.

If that's the case... all these very logical guesstimations and speculations will be dispelled.

Remember this post.

NRTim · 01-28-2017, 12:59 PM

MT and AT for the base and sport is my guess, while the hybrid one is AT only

DLSTR · 01-28-2017, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Trips

Im taking a wait and see approach to these news.

Im wondering if after 30yrs of owning Z's it maybe time to move on.

Smart move to assess when firm data is out about a new Z. I could see the company simply calling it.....The Z. The car has a unique heritage and it will be interesting to see what Nissan create now.

bcfromfl · 01-28-2017, 03:30 PM

Just came across this article today...nothing extraordinary, but maybe a few details:Nissan Has a New 500-Horsepower Z Concept Coming

Also, earlier in this thread folks were discussing that Mazda has given up on sports cars. This might be in the works: Gorgeous Mazda RX Vision on track for 2020 | Top Gear At a recent visit to my Mazda service department, there was even a slick article in their Mazda magazine about it with an interview. This article is posted on Mazda's official website.

chubbs · 01-28-2017, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bcfromfl

Just came across this article today...nothing extraordinary, but maybe a few details:Nissan Has a New 500-Horsepower Z Concept Coming

Also, earlier in this thread folks were discussing that Mazda has given up on sports cars. This might be in the works: Gorgeous Mazda RX Vision on track for 2020 | Top Gear At a recent visit to my Mazda service department, there was even a slick article in their Mazda magazine about it with an interview. This article is posted on Mazda's official website.

Sorry to tell you, but the last 2 pages have been discussions based on the very same text as in your link

...and they even have an 'artist's impression', for what it's worth (not a lot).

bcfromfl · 01-28-2017, 04:59 PM

Sorry about that...hard to wade through 200 pages...

chubbs · 01-28-2017, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bcfromfl

Sorry about that...hard to wade through 200 pages...

I agree. Personally, I think that this latest 'rumour' is the first believable piece of news we've had on the next Z, and therefore deserves a new thread of its own.

UNKNOWN_370 · 01-28-2017, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by chubbs

I agree. Personally, I think that this latest 'rumour' is the first believable piece of news we've had on the next Z, and therefore deserves a new thread of its own.

I think when we see a real concept we can start a new thread. This is still all hearsay

maro · 01-28-2017, 07:53 PM

Yay ! Finally next gen z concept coming this fall

UNKNOWN_370 · 01-28-2017, 08:45 PM

Remember that they said we were getting a Z concept in early 2016... Just sayin

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