[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

Nixin

Simply rebadging a Q to a Z will not cut it. Z's have always had their own specific style and performance level. I for one would never consider another Z if this was the case.

Jordo!

Same chassis, different body panels, better suspension, different tune...

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NISMO IX

Same Chassis is fine but the rest is what makes a Z a Z and separate from the BIGboy luxury G or Q. I may a little by saying this but the G or Q has always been made to have slightly more room in the interior to fit the Merican Arse.

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Jordo!

All I'm saying is: If there is a new Infiniti sport coupe on the market (there is) that is typically rolled out a year before the Z, which is also effectively the "sister" car for the Z, then it is very likely there will be a new Z that will have all the power + better handling etc. as that particular Infiniti coupe.

In short: It's a-comin'

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Magic Bus

Yep. New Q50/60 appears to have a heavier front to rear weight distribution vs the outgoing models. If done to the Z, it may throw off some of it's handling abilities.

According to Nissan/Infiniti the new Q60 is lower, wider and has a lower center of gravity vs the outgoing model. Not sure if this makes up for a heavier front end, but we'll see.

Jordo!

I'm intrigued by the possibility of "steer-by-wire" and how well that can be dialed in (certainly saves on weight), but the dynamic adjustable dampers on the red sport will hopefully find their way to at least a Nismo Z35. If so, I think we'll be happy

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Haven't seen any Q60 skidpad numbers but I'm sure they'll be even better on the Z.

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UNKNOWN_370

How does it save on weight? It actually adds weight because the steering column is still there but it's disengaged for driving use. If there was an emergency, there's extra parts that will hydraulically shove the steering column into the steering wheel and you'll go from a emotionless video game driving experience to the most vague and numb EPAS in history aside from BMW's EPAS....

ILL PASS ON BOTH.... HYDRAULIC RACK N PINION ALL DAY OR BUST.

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FPenvy

I seriously hope that IF there is a new Z they do not put any of that electronics steering nonsense in it.

It would break my fuckin heart to pass on a newer more powerful (hopefully good looking) Z due to some engineer thinking he knows better than drivers.

I work with engineers everyday trust me most can't even tie their shoes correctly let alone properly drive a vehicle haha

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Jordo!

If it doesn't save weight or work well then I recant.

I thought the point was that it did. Why include as an exclusive option on their Red Sport model if it hampers actual, measurable handling performance? It isn't listed as a luxury or safety option as far as I can tell.

2017 Infiniti Q60 Coupe Models | Infiniti USA

If it sucks and/or it isn't an option for the Z, then I'm just wrong on that point, at least for this version of the technology.

Like I said, I am intrigued by the idea, but only see mention on it "potentially" saving weight, so if it's confirmed to add weight, please give me the link.

As to hydraulics and rack and pinion "all day every day", there's nothing inherently special about any particular technology, so I'm fine with steer-by-wire so long as it works well. I'm not opposed to it (or for it) solely on principle or anything.


Engineers actually do usually know better than drivers -- although one hopes a good engineer will also take driver feedback into account when they engineer stuff.

When's the last time you composed a letter on a typewriter?

It won't feel tiny without having at least power steering -- which, BTW, is an engineered technology that adds weight and more mechanical interference between the driver and the act of steering the car.

It ain't a MX-5 or Fiat.

EDIT: Sorry, I must have misread that if you just were talking about the rear camera, rather than handling

On the camera: I dunno, personally, I like the rear camera, but I don't see it as any more or less necessary than any other item that improves visibility.

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