[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

Chuck33079 · 12-01-2016, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Damn..... we rustled up the fanboy b1cth n3ss in some people. I know how it was built. I know what it is.

A Ferrari F12 is the same price. Cant afford a F12 yet but I can tell you right now which one is buy. I bought that $600 drive 4 superstars in a day package so I have some seat time in them and know what I like and don't like. Yeah at $375K. The LFA for me is a fail. But at least their are MK ultra fanboys in the world who succumb to corporate advertising. Otherwise corporations wouldn't make any money.

Up close and personal. I wasn't impressed with the LfA. Period. Deal with it.

You realize people can disagree with you without being fanboys, right?

UNKNOWN_370 · 12-01-2016, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

You realize people can disagree with you without being fanboys, right?

It's not that they disagree. It's the people can't afford supercars making comments crap and assuming we don't know enough about the LFA. THATS THE ISSUE.

Chuck33079 · 12-01-2016, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

It's not that they disagree. It's the. People can't afford superstars making comments crap and assuming we don't know enough about the LFA. THATS THE ISSUE.

You're doing the same thing - assuming we don't know the history, and assuming that we must be ill-informed if we have a different opinion.

UNKNOWN_370 · 12-01-2016, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

You're doing the same thing - assuming we don't know the history, and assuming that we must be ill-informed if we have a different opinion.

Not true. Cuz the fact that you like an LFA doesn't bother me at all. I'm just saying that don't tell me I don't know my history to justify your opinion OVER MINE. All opinions are equal cuz they are just opinions. Period.

But one true fact is.... what TOYOTA offered wasn't what they delivered. N Nissan is going the same route.

Chuck33079 · 12-01-2016, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

All opinions are equal cuz they are just opinions. Period.

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Damn..... we rustled up the fanboy b1cth n3ss in some people.

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

It's the people can't afford supercars making comments crap and assuming we don't know enough about the LFA. THATS THE ISSUE.

If opinions are all equal, how come someone disagreeing with yours must be because of their "fanboy b1cth n3ss"?

I get it, we all like different cars. That's fine. And opinions on the internet are worth exactly what you paid for them. But it's possible to like certain cars and dislike certain cars without it being fanboy b1cth n3ss.

UNKNOWN_370 · 12-01-2016, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

If opinions are all equal, how come someone disagreeing with yours must be because of their "fanboy b1cth n3ss"?

I get it, we all like different cars. That's fine. And opinions on the internet are worth exactly what you paid for them. But it's possible to like certain cars and dislike certain cars without it being fanboy b1cth n3ss.

Like I said.... when you start saying things like "it's always the guys who can't afford supercars with the negative comments". Yeah.... I'm a call that fanboy.... if that didn't exist? My fanboy comment wouldn't exist. If I wasn't told to learn the LFA history when I do. That comment again.... would not exist. But as usual. People get hurt over my response over the initial instigating comment.

UNKNOWN_370 · 12-01-2016, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

If opinions are all equal, how come someone disagreeing with yours must be because of their "fanboy b1cth n3ss"?

I get it, we all like different cars. That's fine. And opinions on the internet are worth exactly what you paid for them. But it's possible to like certain cars and dislike certain cars without it being fanboy b1cth n3ss.

That third quote was me repeating what was said. Not my opinion.

UNKNOWN_370 · 12-01-2016, 09:17 AM

By the way. When the LFA was initially announced as a concept. It was supposed to be a $150,000 GTR killer. The GTR at the time was $78,000 for the base and $85,000 for the premium.
Just like the GT-86. People were originally promised a 2700lb turbo ranging between 250 & 300hp with a base price of $22,000.

Both the LFA and FRS once production was being finalized. They didn't live up to either promise. Instead if admitting they couldn't build what they promised. They started huge advertising promos kicking automotive philosophy and Toyota going back to its roots.

The reason why the Z community was hype about the FRS was because we were told we were going to have a true Z competitor. A car that had less power. We guesstimated 280hp but was 600lbs lighter, so we could actually have a track competitor. They failed at that too.

Then they made documentaries and adds to derail the initial competitive claims. Nice save Toyota . This Supra is supposed to redeem themselves by FINALLY giving the people what they've been expecting for a looong time. Toyota spent 15 years being what Nissan is turning into.

So before you criticize our opinions. Know a Lil bit of the pre-history.

Nithmo · 12-01-2016, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

By the way. When the LFA was initially announced as a concept. It was supposed to be a $150,000 GTR killer. The GTR at the time was $78,000 for the base and $85,000 for the premium.
Just like the GT-86. People were originally promised a 2700lb turbo ranging between 250 & 300hp with a base price of $22,000.

Both the LFA and FRS once production was being finalized. They didn't live up to either promise. Instead if admitting they couldn't build what they promised. They started huge advertising promos kicking automotive philosophy and Toyota going back to its roots.

The reason why the Z community was hype about the FRS was because we were told we were going to have a true Z competitor. A car that had less power. We guesstimated 280hp but was 600lbs lighter, so we could actually have a track competitor. They failed at that too.

Then they made documentaries and adds to derail the initial competitive claims. Nice save Toyota . This Supra is supposed to redeem themselves by FINALLY giving the people what they've been expecting for a looong time. Toyota spent 15 years being what Nissan is turning into.

So before you criticize our opinions. Know a Lil bit of the pre-history.

I've never heard anything of the such. Please provide articles supporting your statements.

UNKNOWN_370 · 12-01-2016, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Nithmo

I've never heard anything of the such. Please provide articles supporting your statements.

You can go yourself to the Toyobaru forums and did out the first ever speculation articles. I am in that forum too. You can join n find out for yourself. Probably here too in the other vehiclesvsection. I'm not gonna prove to you what a good majority of ENTHUSIASTS know.

Chuck33079 · 12-01-2016, 09:38 AM

Touche.

UNKNOWN_370 · 12-01-2016, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Touche.

Much respect to you....

Dirk McGurck · 12-01-2016, 09:44 AM

So...manual or automatic?

UNKNOWN_370 · 12-01-2016, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk mcgurck

so...manual or automatic?

lmao

ped · 12-01-2016, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck

So...manual or automatic?

Breakin by the manual, or hard breakin?

12-01-2016, 09:17 AM	#8 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	By the way. When the LFA was initially announced as a concept. It was supposed to be a $150,000 GTR killer. The GTR at the time was $78,000 for the base and $85,000 for the premium. Just like the GT-86. People were originally promised a 2700lb turbo ranging between 250 & 300hp with a base price of $22,000. Both the LFA and FRS once production was being finalized. They didn't live up to either promise. Instead if admitting they couldn't build what they promised. They started huge advertising promos kicking automotive philosophy and Toyota going back to its roots. The reason why the Z community was hype about the FRS was because we were told we were going to have a true Z competitor. A car that had less power. We guesstimated 280hp but was 600lbs lighter, so we could actually have a track competitor. They failed at that too. Then they made documentaries and adds to derail the initial competitive claims. Nice save Toyota . This Supra is supposed to redeem themselves by FINALLY giving the people what they've been expecting for a looong time. Toyota spent 15 years being what Nissan is turning into. So before you criticize our opinions. Know a Lil bit of the pre-history. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980 Last edited by UNKNOWN_370; 12-01-2016 at 09:22 AM.

12-01-2016, 09:38 AM	#11 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Touche. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

12-01-2016, 09:44 AM	#13 (permalink)
Dirk McGurck Track Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Delaware Posts: 715 Drives: 09 MB 370Z Touring Rep Power: 21	So...manual or automatic? __________________ 2009 370Z Touring with Sport

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