[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

UNKNOWN_370 · 08-16-2016, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Wonka2581

Every "Corvette owner" I have ever met (and I have met a lot of them) they are all utter and complete self centered as$ holes. Every Z owner I have ever met treats you like family! That's enough to for me.

That's cuz, you may be an O'Connor, but you're also a Torretto. We're family.

wanderer1234 · 08-16-2016, 09:46 PM

Lol. Man. So much hate on this thread. I own a 2015 Nismo 370Z by the way and I have no idea who jungle is. I'm a realist, sorry guys. Thinking about selling the Z to get a Z06 though. Man, forget the overheating issue because the Z also have heating issues too. At least the Z06 is track ready and won't catch on fire.

brucelidat · 08-16-2016, 09:52 PM

The z06 is a great car but who compares a 370z to it? They're not in the same league. Maybe e tt z35 will be in the league of a base c7 but who knows. No one said the Z is better than the vette, but you came in here, bashed the Z and talked about as if the vette and Z were competitors when they really aren't. A non-z06 vette is way more expensive than a 370z and still significantly more expensive than a Nismo. Plus the z is an older car so it's not going to be as fast as a newer more expensive car, come on. Don't compare them as a way to bash the Z. The has its faults but this is a stupid comparison.

wanderer1234 · 08-16-2016, 09:56 PM

No. I didn't bash the Z. I love the Z! I just said maybe I'll buy a Z06 instead of waiting for the new Z. People took it the wrong way and bashed the Z06. Re-read the posts, you'll see.

UNKNOWN_370 · 08-16-2016, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by wanderer1234

Lol. Man. So much hate on this thread. I own a 2015 Nismo 370Z by the way and I have no idea who jungle is. I'm a realist, sorry guys. Thinking about selling the Z to get a Z06 though. Man, forget the overheating issue because the Z also have heating issues too. At least the Z06 is track ready and won't catch on fire.

You know why you're a ******* *****. Because who THINKS about trading a Z for a Z06? If you like it so much. You just jump into it. Cuz the two cars don't compete. Z competitor is a base Cayman. And it's not even a direct competitor because of the mid engine. It only compares in power. You want a Z06? Go buy one. God bless, enjoy n be the **** outta here jungle Z.

There's no realism based on your comparo. Because it's unrealistic to compare a car that bases @ $29,900 to a car that bases at 79,900.

There's no hate in this thread for the vette. We love the vette and respect it. We hate stupid posts from unknowledgeable people who are pretending to own a Z and trade for a Z06 and talk a lot of shyt that has no basis or foundation in the discussion.

Just so you know. While you're blowing corvettes and swallowing the jiz. Corvette Z06 owners filed a class action against GM Mr corvette knowledge.

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2015/10/...eneral-motors/

Cars have issues.... period. Especially sports cars.

NISMO IX · 08-16-2016, 10:15 PM

Wonka2581 · 08-16-2016, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

That's cuz, you may be an O'Connor, but you're also a Torretto. We're family.

sad part is I really am an O'Connor in real life...

UNKNOWN_370 · 08-16-2016, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Wonka2581

sad part is I really am an O'Connor in real life...

I figured that. I'm really a Torretto.

Wonka2581 · 08-16-2016, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I figured that. I'm really a Torretto.

We still fam tho..

I'll bring the coronas

njobe89 · 08-17-2016, 06:07 AM

who is saying grace?

Cyber370 · 08-17-2016, 07:01 AM

In response to the Corvette Z06 comments and as a previous C5 Vette owner and general Corvette enthusiast, I can clear up a few things.

Firstly: A 370Z Nismo is nowhere near the price of a C7 Stingray. Not even in the ballpark. The base Stingray will cost you at least 20K more for a base one. That is the case in Canada anyway.
Secondly: Corvettes prior to the C7 generation were geared towards older (retired), bigger (usually overweight or with limited mobility) drivers and that is why the seats always sucked and the suspension on base models was extremely soft (Buick like). You cannot make comfortable, body hugging seats when 90% of your cars are geared towards the above-mentioned demographic. Entering and exiting the car needed to be very easy and therefore the seats did not have any significant bottom or side bolstering.
With the new C7, GM changed all that and they now come with excellent seats especially the optional sport seats which are amazing. It is obvious that they are now trying to sell to a younger consumer. But, will younger consumers catch on. The dilemma is that they may not be able to afford it and GM may end up alienating the original older Corvette buyer. But, based on sales numbers, GM's plan is working.
Thirdly: Mechanically, GM LS engines are pretty-well bulletproof. Probably the best compact aluminum V8 engine package available. The new LT engines are probably just as reliable since they are still based on the LS but with direct injection and cylinder de-activation. However, where GM always fails is with the electronics. The new C7 Corvette is chock full of electronic doodads that will become a total nightmare for any one keeping the C7 for longer than 4-5 years or past warranty. Anytime this amount of electronic technology finds itself in a GM car, I get nervous. Trust me, I know. GM still are way behind the Japanese when it comes to the reliability of their electronic components. Too much low-priced outsourcing and too little development, in my opinion.

The C7 Corvette is an amazing sports car for the price and nothing comes close. But, it's not always about speed. Reliability is extremely important and should never be overlooked.

Personally, I would never get another Corvette no matter how good it may be. I just don't like the stigma that goes along with owning one. It just made me feel old. I don't know how else to put it. Also, every time I drove it I was always worried about what other intermittent electronic failure I would get. Yes, I had an older generation Vette but based on what I was reading on the Corvette forum recently, the C7's are already plagued by a lot of electronic gremlins.

I'm so glad I'm in a 370Z Nismo now!

UNKNOWN_370 · 08-17-2016, 08:24 AM

370z is a no frills, rough and tumble, direct, nimble and quick little fun sports car with tons of feedback and it's truckish engine responsiveness becomes very charming once you've gotten over it's awkward torque delivery from a sports car. But when you push it. It works so well. It feels great when couple with the taught low COG suspension and it's direct perfectly weighted steering. On the 7 AT, you can drive the Z in gears 2,3,4,&5 so aggressively and DRM mimics heal and toe on every shift or you just knock it right back into D to reduce the drama pulling up to a light.

I'm considering Jun exhaust cams once I buy my Z35 to give it a Lil more character. Also dabbled with the thought of trading my current Z for this Nismo Z this year and buying a Z35 next year.

There are lots of awesome cars out there. But for me, there's something special about the Z. Everyone has that special car. Whether it be an e46 m3 or a c5 corvette.

In this generation of vehicles there were two cars that drove like nothing else, The Z and the Evo X.
Their may be faster, more expensive and higher quality cars. But these two driving dynamics for the coin is unreal. No car under $50,000 brand new feels like them.

UNKNOWN_370 · 08-17-2016, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Wonka2581

We still fam tho..

I'll bring the coronas

No doubt. Lol. I'll bring the wingstop!!!

ped · 08-17-2016, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Yup this is a Jungle Z post. You can buy two sport Z'S for the price of a Z06 and outfit both Z'S with intake headers, exhaust & get racing cams or a supercharger kit if you can do the build yourself.

Nobody here is feels the Z is superior to a vette. We are car enthusiasts here. Your comments are fvckin ridiculous and I seriously suggest you get back on your meds real soon jungle boy because I promise you. You will be banned again soon if you keep it up. No one needs you here.

Don't ban him. The whack jobs are what make forums like these fun.

ped · 08-17-2016, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by wanderer1234

Lol. Man. So much hate on this thread. I own a 2015 Nismo 370Z by the way and I have no idea who jungle is. I'm a realist, sorry guys. Thinking about selling the Z to get a Z06 though. Man, forget the overheating issue because the Z also have heating issues too. At least the Z06 is track ready and won't catch on fire.

Check the new Camaro SS out - Vette engine and tranny with a bit extra weight but a lot cheaper. May be the sweet spot. I don't care for their looks all that much, but the 1LE (appearance.handling) and ZL1 models (appearance/supercharger) models look better and are on their way. Test driving one of the SS models may have been a mistake as I liked the damn thing.

08-16-2016, 09:52 PM	#2433 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 31	The z06 is a great car but who compares a 370z to it? They're not in the same league. Maybe e tt z35 will be in the league of a base c7 but who knows. No one said the Z is better than the vette, but you came in here, bashed the Z and talked about as if the vette and Z were competitors when they really aren't. A non-z06 vette is way more expensive than a 370z and still significantly more expensive than a Nismo. Plus the z is an older car so it's not going to be as fast as a newer more expensive car, come on. Don't compare them as a way to bash the Z. The has its faults but this is a stupid comparison. UNKNOWN_370, ped, BC416 and 2 others like this. __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

08-16-2016, 10:15 PM	#2436 (permalink)
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08-17-2016, 06:07 AM	#2440 (permalink)
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08-17-2016, 07:01 AM	#2441 (permalink)
Cyber370 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Montreal, QC Canada Posts: 679 Drives: 2016 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 19372	In response to the Corvette Z06 comments and as a previous C5 Vette owner and general Corvette enthusiast, I can clear up a few things. Firstly: A 370Z Nismo is nowhere near the price of a C7 Stingray. Not even in the ballpark. The base Stingray will cost you at least 20K more for a base one. That is the case in Canada anyway. Secondly: Corvettes prior to the C7 generation were geared towards older (retired), bigger (usually overweight or with limited mobility) drivers and that is why the seats always sucked and the suspension on base models was extremely soft (Buick like). You cannot make comfortable, body hugging seats when 90% of your cars are geared towards the above-mentioned demographic. Entering and exiting the car needed to be very easy and therefore the seats did not have any significant bottom or side bolstering. With the new C7, GM changed all that and they now come with excellent seats especially the optional sport seats which are amazing. It is obvious that they are now trying to sell to a younger consumer. But, will younger consumers catch on. The dilemma is that they may not be able to afford it and GM may end up alienating the original older Corvette buyer. But, based on sales numbers, GM's plan is working. Thirdly: Mechanically, GM LS engines are pretty-well bulletproof. Probably the best compact aluminum V8 engine package available. The new LT engines are probably just as reliable since they are still based on the LS but with direct injection and cylinder de-activation. However, where GM always fails is with the electronics. The new C7 Corvette is chock full of electronic doodads that will become a total nightmare for any one keeping the C7 for longer than 4-5 years or past warranty. Anytime this amount of electronic technology finds itself in a GM car, I get nervous. Trust me, I know. GM still are way behind the Japanese when it comes to the reliability of their electronic components. Too much low-priced outsourcing and too little development, in my opinion. The C7 Corvette is an amazing sports car for the price and nothing comes close. But, it's not always about speed. Reliability is extremely important and should never be overlooked. Personally, I would never get another Corvette no matter how good it may be. I just don't like the stigma that goes along with owning one. It just made me feel old. I don't know how else to put it. Also, every time I drove it I was always worried about what other intermittent electronic failure I would get. Yes, I had an older generation Vette but based on what I was reading on the Corvette forum recently, the C7's are already plagued by a lot of electronic gremlins. I'm so glad I'm in a 370Z Nismo now! Magic Bus likes this. Last edited by Cyber370; 08-17-2016 at 07:30 AM.

08-17-2016, 08:24 AM	#2442 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	370z is a no frills, rough and tumble, direct, nimble and quick little fun sports car with tons of feedback and it's truckish engine responsiveness becomes very charming once you've gotten over it's awkward torque delivery from a sports car. But when you push it. It works so well. It feels great when couple with the taught low COG suspension and it's direct perfectly weighted steering. On the 7 AT, you can drive the Z in gears 2,3,4,&5 so aggressively and DRM mimics heal and toe on every shift or you just knock it right back into D to reduce the drama pulling up to a light. I'm considering Jun exhaust cams once I buy my Z35 to give it a Lil more character. Also dabbled with the thought of trading my current Z for this Nismo Z this year and buying a Z35 next year. There are lots of awesome cars out there. But for me, there's something special about the Z. Everyone has that special car. Whether it be an e46 m3 or a c5 corvette. In this generation of vehicles there were two cars that drove like nothing else, The Z and the Evo X. Their may be faster, more expensive and higher quality cars. But these two driving dynamics for the coin is unreal. No car under $50,000 brand new feels like them. Magic Bus, ped and AV8rZ like this. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

08-16-2016, 09:46 PM	#2432 (permalink)
wanderer1234 Banned Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Fresno Posts: 38 Drives: 2015 370Z Nismo Rep Power: 0	Lol. Man. So much hate on this thread. I own a 2015 Nismo 370Z by the way and I have no idea who jungle is. I'm a realist, sorry guys. Thinking about selling the Z to get a Z06 though. Man, forget the overheating issue because the Z also have heating issues too. At least the Z06 is track ready and won't catch on fire.

08-16-2016, 09:56 PM	#2434 (permalink)
wanderer1234 Banned Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Fresno Posts: 38 Drives: 2015 370Z Nismo Rep Power: 0	No. I didn't bash the Z. I love the Z! I just said maybe I'll buy a Z06 instead of waiting for the new Z. People took it the wrong way and bashed the Z06. Re-read the posts, you'll see.

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