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Easiest way to get the driverless cars going is to only have them on highways, and in their own section of the highway like an express lane. That way the computers only have to deal with each other rather than human elements.

And if that happens, the manual control parts of the road may start to empty out, freeing up space for the rest of us. Win/win
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Easiest way to get the driverless cars going is to only have them on highways, and in their own section of the highway like an express lane. That way the computers only have to deal with each other rather than human elements.

And if that happens, the manual control parts of the road may start to empty out, freeing up space for the rest of us. Win/win
With most cars moving autonomously and a few wildcard drivers slaloming their way through, it would make for an interesting game of "chicken", that's for sure...

Unless I was in need of a nap, I have a bad feeling I'd probably play chicken and hope the robots can cope.

Anyway, I guess buying self-driving cars is one way for taxpayers to avoid having to invest in high-speed rail...
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With most cars moving autonomously and a few wildcard drivers slaloming their way through, it would make for an interesting game of "chicken", that's for sure...

Unless I was in need of a nap, I have a bad feeling I'd probably play chicken and hope the robots can cope.

Anyway, I guess buying self-driving cars is one way for taxpayers to avoid having to invest in high-speed rail...
What I'm saying is the autos are on their own road, probably clipping along at 90MPH, while manual control cars on on their own road with normal speed limits.
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What I'm saying is the autos are on their own road, probably clipping along at 90MPH, while manual control cars on on their own road with normal speed limits.


90mph is my normal highway speed......

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I did say autos...
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Easiest way to get the driverless cars going is to only have them on highways, and in their own section of the highway like an express lane. That way the computers only have to deal with each other rather than human elements.

And if that happens, the manual control parts of the road may start to empty out, freeing up space for the rest of us. Win/win
They can call it the Prius-Tesla Interstate.
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I hope we have the option of not wanting that tech
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i was sitting in a tesla the other day and my friend was driving with autopilot on. the point of autopilot isnt to make decisions for u. it requires you to focus on the driving without actually driving.
kinda like cruise control except now it stays in lane and avoid hitting the car in front for u.
kinda like an airplane.

i guess u guys mean full auto mode like u pick a location and it delivers u there. but that should still require someone to be "driving" just not actually driving.


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What they need to do is stop half-a$$ing the implementation of technology. Either you are in full control of the vehicle or something else is in full control. None of this "well you don't have to do anything but you still have to pay attention" bull$hit like the current iterations. Of course, giving over full control to AI is extremely problematic in itself, like Jordo! points out. Although, I'm not convinced that an incompetent driver not paying attention has any chance of making a "better" decision in an emergency than a well-developed AI.

Frankly, the way I see it, the main problem is way too many people have drivers licenses to begin with, which makes everyone feel fuckin entitled to drive. If we made the driving test so that only competent people could get a license, the roads would be much safer.
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What they need to do is stop half-a$$ing the implementation of technology. Either you are in full control of the vehicle or something else is in full control. None of this "well you don't have to do anything but you still have to pay attention" bull$hit like the current iterations. Of course, giving over full control to AI is extremely problematic in itself, like Jordo! points out. Although, I'm not convinced that an incompetent driver not paying attention has any chance of making a "better" decision in an emergency than a well-developed AI.

Frankly, the way I see it, the main problem is way too many people have drivers licenses to begin with, which makes everyone feel fuckin entitled to drive. If we made the driving test so that only competent people could get a license, the roads would be much safer.
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Frankly, the way I see it, the main problem is way too many people have drivers licenses to begin with, which makes everyone feel fuckin entitled to drive. If we made the driving test so that only competent people could get a license, the roads would be much safer.
Yes Sir.... New York City they make it hard to pass a road test. And it should be that way. They should require an IQ of at least 108 as well
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Yes Sir.... New York City they make it hard to pass a road test. And it should be that way. They should require an IQ of at least 108 as well
If they did that, they'd disqualify a lot of cops from driving.

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If they did that, they'd disqualify a lot of cops from driving.

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Is that for real?

If so, that is bizarre. And yes, it's discrimination.

Whatever that test measures, it's unlikely to reflect more than a fraction of what we consider "intelligence" anyway.

In any case, the more intelligent applicants will deliberately score low to avoid that problem, at least if they are informed of it.

Also, what does that say about those eventually being promoted to a detective? Why try and limit your key problem-solvers on intellect?

I won't even get into the weaknesses of their theory in regard to intellect and boredom... or law enforcement, or anything for that matter...
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Is that for real?

If so, that is bizarre. And yes, it's discrimination.
Yeah, it's for real.

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Maybe so, but the department thinks it measures something they don't want. Critical thinking? I saw in another article they also screen out people who have (too much?) compassion. So they want dispassionate and average intellect police officers, apparently.

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Also, what does that say about those eventually being promoted to a detective? Why try and limit your key problem-solvers on intellect?
I agree - but maybe they recruit college grads in a different way for detective track? Not sure.

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