[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

sgosh · 07-22-2016, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by njobe89

if they took honor seriously, they would have fixed the csc issue, but yet they haven't touched it. honor is long gone, no more

Most cars are international collaborations nowadays, from design teams to parts manufacture to final assembly.

Regional cultural traits are (nearly) irrelevant. Today's manufacturers play globally, and the thing that motivates is profitability.

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-22-2016, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by njobe89

if they took honor seriously, they would have fixed the csc issue, but yet they haven't touched it. honor is long gone, no more

CSC warranty issues are separate from designing a sports car but I understand your logic behind what you're saying.

allZeeingeye · 07-22-2016, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by layhum

The 2017 is the exact same as the 2016. I was thinking like you when I first got it back in Nov 2015.

Yeah I know the early 2017s wont be any different. I should have clarified that its this current generation of Z's is mostly what I was referring to as opposed to a specific year. The new Z, when it finally comes out, will be the first year of the new generation and I have a feeling I wont be at all disappointed that I didn't wait for the new one to come out.

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-22-2016, 06:15 PM

Check out my new thread in the other vehicles section. I think I found a clue to the Z being built on a new chassis. If Nissan makes a modular chassis? There goes everyone's negative theory about why is Nissan going to make an Lol new chassis for a low selling car???

Your possible answer is, the modular chassis will save Nissan money by building a family of cars off of one chassis??? No need for a FWD chassis like the D platform and then the RWD chassis on the FM platform. They will all be done on the same platform.

Next generation Juke built on modular chassis!!!

NRTim · 07-22-2016, 10:05 PM

New Toyota Supra may get a twin-turbo Lexus V6 - Autoblog

Lol if these rumors are true Nissan better step it up, cause we all know this next Supra isn't going to be cheap

Dirk McGurck · 07-22-2016, 10:18 PM

Supra will match better against the GT-R most likely. And people have been talking about it coming back since 1 hour after the last one left the production line.

Volk Z · 07-22-2016, 11:27 PM

I was following the FT1 forums for a while and last I read Toyota released dollar amount figures being in the mid 50ks. If Toyota use their V6TT and have around 460-475hp and the new Z gets low 400s I would say it would be like the 90s 300zx vs Supra TT days. The Z will be slightly cheaper but all in all will be direct competition. The GTR at this point will be wayyy ahead of where the Supra will be positioned.

Dirk McGurck · 07-22-2016, 11:53 PM

There was talk of the Supra being a hybrid at one point, electric motors for the front wheels and gas/electric for the back. Then again, that's been said about the GTR, too. I'll believe it when me **** turns pink.

Dirk McGurck · 07-22-2016, 11:55 PM

I do know that I will never want a hybrid sportscar. If I'm going to buy an impractical car, I want it to run on the tears of baby seals. Front-mid engine, RWD, V6TT, 6/7speed manual, max 3200lbs, same outer dimensions/wheelbase, nicer interior and I'll be a happy man.

COSMO · 07-23-2016, 09:34 AM

I can't help but to wonder how much the internals will handle with more boost with this new motor... I wouldn't think squeezing another 100hp out of it would be an issue with a chip, downpipes, intake, and exhaust..

Volk Z · 07-23-2016, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by COSMO

I can't help but to wonder how much the internals will handle with more boost with this new motor... I wouldn't think squeezing another 100hp out of it would be an issue with a chip, downpipes, intake, and exhaust..

I agree, the 350z had 240ish wheel hp and could handle around 400 wheel hp comfortably so I would assume Nissan would at least makean already forced induced motor with fairly strong internals.

I was thinking how it's funny a lot of doubters saying a 3000-3200 pound 400hp Z couldn't exist for 36-45k. Who would have thought you could ever buy a 435hp car for 29k brand new. (Mustang GT, yes I saw on autotrader for this price brand new)

As for the weight, it's already an impractical car with a 2 seater. The FRS with a backseat weighs around 2700 pounds. We have heard the Z possibly getting smaller so theoretically Nissan could make a 3000+ or- pound car.

Dirk McGurck · 07-23-2016, 03:45 PM

Don't we already have forged iternals? And our motors can already handle 500/600 without much done internally?

zguynate · 07-23-2016, 04:00 PM

We have a forged crank. Everything else is weak sauce.

Volk Z · 07-23-2016, 04:51 PM

Forged internals on the 370? Ummm definitely not...

Plus the biggest thing on a high compression engine going with an aftermarket turbo setup is a great tune. Internals upgraded would be a piece of mind for sure but a tune that doesn't blow the motor up would be a good investment.

Years ago putting forced induction on a high compression motor wasn't the most wise decision but they definitely came a long way with tuning!

COSMO · 07-23-2016, 05:24 PM

Amen to that brotha, well said.. It's funny because 8.5 comp used to be the magical number when going fi.. How times have changed, lol...

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Originally Posted by Volk Z

Forged internals on the 370? Ummm definitely not...

Plus the biggest thing on a high compression engine going with an aftermarket turbo setup is a great tune. Internals upgraded would be a piece of mind for sure but a tune that doesn't blow the motor up would be a good investment.

Years ago putting forced induction on a high compression motor wasn't the most wise decision but they definitely came a long way with tuning!

07-22-2016, 06:15 PM	#2224 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	Check out my new thread in the other vehicles section. I think I found a clue to the Z being built on a new chassis. If Nissan makes a modular chassis? There goes everyone's negative theory about why is Nissan going to make an Lol new chassis for a low selling car??? Your possible answer is, the modular chassis will save Nissan money by building a family of cars off of one chassis??? No need for a FWD chassis like the D platform and then the RWD chassis on the FM platform. They will all be done on the same platform. Next generation Juke built on modular chassis!!! Volk Z and MagmaRed370z like this. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980 Last edited by UNKNOWN_370; 07-22-2016 at 06:50 PM.

07-22-2016, 10:18 PM	#2226 (permalink)
Dirk McGurck Track Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Delaware Posts: 715 Drives: 09 MB 370Z Touring Rep Power: 21	Supra will match better against the GT-R most likely. And people have been talking about it coming back since 1 hour after the last one left the production line. UNKNOWN_370 likes this. __________________ 2009 370Z Touring with Sport

07-22-2016, 11:27 PM	#2227 (permalink)
Volk Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Laguna Beach, CA Posts: 2,214 Drives: Nismo Z Rep Power: 3066	I was following the FT1 forums for a while and last I read Toyota released dollar amount figures being in the mid 50ks. If Toyota use their V6TT and have around 460-475hp and the new Z gets low 400s I would say it would be like the 90s 300zx vs Supra TT days. The Z will be slightly cheaper but all in all will be direct competition. The GTR at this point will be wayyy ahead of where the Supra will be positioned. UNKNOWN_370 likes this. __________________ AMUSE * TOMEI * STILLEN * CRAFTSQUARE RECARO * 3M * TOP SECRET * SLICKCARBON

07-22-2016, 11:53 PM	#2228 (permalink)
Dirk McGurck Track Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Delaware Posts: 715 Drives: 09 MB 370Z Touring Rep Power: 21	There was talk of the Supra being a hybrid at one point, electric motors for the front wheels and gas/electric for the back. Then again, that's been said about the GTR, too. I'll believe it when me **** turns pink. __________________ 2009 370Z Touring with Sport

07-22-2016, 11:55 PM	#2229 (permalink)
Dirk McGurck Track Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Delaware Posts: 715 Drives: 09 MB 370Z Touring Rep Power: 21	I do know that I will never want a hybrid sportscar. If I'm going to buy an impractical car, I want it to run on the tears of baby seals. Front-mid engine, RWD, V6TT, 6/7speed manual, max 3200lbs, same outer dimensions/wheelbase, nicer interior and I'll be a happy man. UNKNOWN_370, Volk Z and sx moneypit like this. __________________ 2009 370Z Touring with Sport

07-22-2016, 10:05 PM	#2225 (permalink)
NRTim Base Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Nowhere,TX Age: 38 Posts: 131 Drives: 2017 ??? Rep Power: 16	New Toyota Supra may get a twin-turbo Lexus V6 - Autoblog Lol if these rumors are true Nissan better step it up, cause we all know this next Supra isn't going to be cheap

07-23-2016, 09:34 AM	#2230 (permalink)
COSMO A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: FL Posts: 1,816 Drives: 2012 Touring GTM TT Rep Power: 20	I can't help but to wonder how much the internals will handle with more boost with this new motor... I wouldn't think squeezing another 100hp out of it would be an issue with a chip, downpipes, intake, and exhaust.. UNKNOWN_370 and MagmaRed370z like this.

07-23-2016, 03:45 PM	#2232 (permalink)
Dirk McGurck Track Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Delaware Posts: 715 Drives: 09 MB 370Z Touring Rep Power: 21	Don't we already have forged iternals? And our motors can already handle 500/600 without much done internally? __________________ 2009 370Z Touring with Sport

07-23-2016, 04:00 PM	#2233 (permalink)
zguynate A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Strangeland Posts: 1,054 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 74	$60K for next new Z35? We have a forged crank. Everything else is weak sauce. UNKNOWN_370, cautupwitdm and COSMO like this. __________________ 2009 370z touring w/sports package

07-23-2016, 04:51 PM	#2234 (permalink)
Volk Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Laguna Beach, CA Posts: 2,214 Drives: Nismo Z Rep Power: 3066	Forged internals on the 370? Ummm definitely not... Plus the biggest thing on a high compression engine going with an aftermarket turbo setup is a great tune. Internals upgraded would be a piece of mind for sure but a tune that doesn't blow the motor up would be a good investment. Years ago putting forced induction on a high compression motor wasn't the most wise decision but they definitely came a long way with tuning! cautupwitdm and COSMO like this. __________________ AMUSE * TOMEI * STILLEN * CRAFTSQUARE RECARO * 3M * TOP SECRET * SLICKCARBON Last edited by Volk Z; 07-23-2016 at 04:53 PM.

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