[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

wanderer1234

I'm not the one comparing V8's to V6's, you are. I'm just pointing out the obvious my friend. You're dreaming way too big, wanting 450+ hp on a 45k Nissan Z. I understand all the cars that were pointed out.

If you can show me a 450+ hp 45k car that weighs 2800-3000 lb I'll beg to differ. Until then stop dreaming about cheap fast cars, it's annoying. Either buy it or don't buy it. Stop complaining about what's being offered. Besides, Nissan doesn't care what you want. You're a just one person. If you're not gonna buy it new it's not gonna affect them.

Oh and to the people out there saying technology evolve....it does but it ain't gonna happen soon and there ain't no 700 hp new GTR yet. When it happens let me know. Y'all people are funny, wanting such a powerful car to be cheap.

Lets all go make more money guys so we can buy a lightweight car with 450+ plus HP. Lol.

Some people can't handle the truth. The truth sucks, I know. We like to dream but at one point we have to wake up.

Chuck33079

The honest truth is that we'll be lucky if they don't kill the Z outright. It was a sales disaster. Ghosn runs his company by the numbers, and if the Z is only selling 5k a year we won't have a Z for long. It's a hard sell for Nissan to spend a lot of money retooling for such a low volume seller.

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Volk Z

I should have phrased this differently. I meant elongated rear. I.e. 2005 corvette vs 2015 corvette tail.

Wide is good, long like a nascar from the side is no bueno.

It's one thing I love about the 370z over the 350z is the shorter tail.

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UNKNOWN_370

I feel like they have a couple HUGE reason to start from scratch on the Z.

1. The Z is a heritage car. It's name has resonated for 47 years and most generations have had an impact in the automotive world.

2. Before the HONORABLE MR. K. passed away. The father to our cars. The man who invented Z philosophy. He test rode/drove the 370z and was very very disappointed. He thought the Z34 evolution was shameful at best. He thought the car was heavy and drove like a truck.

The Japanese take honor seriously. I think the next Z for right now is not just about "the numbers" or about Carlos Ghosen. It's about Nissan not destroying it's own heritage and disrespecting the man's legacy that put Datsun-Nissan's name on the world map? If there was no Z? Nissan wouldn't have grown in the 70's to the heights that they did.

I believe this one is for Mr. K. If this gen doesn't pan out? Then next generation I foresee a cancellation or no export. The corvette has only sold 12,000 units last year. And plans keep going forward. So I think a quality Z can sell close to that number. Especially abroad where it's name gets more respect.

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FPenvy

US model year is a 2017.

Don't get tied up on stupid little details like that. Especially with it being a Japanese car and they use a different model year system than we do

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njobe89

if they took honor seriously, they would have fixed the csc issue, but yet they haven't touched it. honor is long gone, no more

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ViCiouS

You mean you can't fathom Nissan doing exactly what Porsche did? Same 0-60s and 1/4 but the Cayman is overall a better track car at 75% of the price.
718 Cayman S PDK starting 69.5K
991.2 Carerra PDK starting 92.6K

And that's for EXACT SAME performance! A more accurate comparison would be below. Which means the Cayman is 44% the price of the 911 Turbo (same speed as a GTR), for a competitive sports car.
718 Cayman S PDK starting 69.5K
991.2 Carerra Turbo PDK starting 159.2K


Now lets see how that translates to Nissan.
GTR starts at 109k, so 44% of that is starting at $48k for a Z that would be a step up from where it is now, a competitive sports car, and still leaves market for the exclusive GTR.

In addition, this would make the Z competitive with the Cayman, F Type, and BMW Z.


Hey now.. I'll tune my Porsche lol. But you've been spot on with your comments man. As stated above, making the Z faster and lighter will also make it more competitive with the 'luxury sports'.

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Firebase99

Little confused about "same performance" for Cayman S and a new 991 Turbo. Those 911's are a mere tick behind Veyron #'s dude. Defies physics fast.

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killrain

You and your automatics sir.................

wanderer1234

Lol. Man. I've caused a lot of grief and heartaches from being honest and real. Let's go back to the world where we wish Nissan would do X Y Z.

Nissan should out-source the C6 Z06 Corvette and call it a Z35 for some people in here. They would like that lol.

wanderer1234

Keep the S2K and sell the Nismo for a BRZ or keep the Nismo and sell the S2k for the BRZ?

Or keep both and forget about the BRZ?

sgosh

... in its current, Mostly Unchanged Since 2009 Form, sure.

A clever revamp that ticks the boxes for what the current market wants at the right price? Why not? That takes a bit of investment, but executed properly, it'll recup itself.

Whether Nissan's capable of that ... is another discussion.

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