[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

Dirk McGurck · 07-20-2016, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MenZerna

It just doesn't look exotic or expensive. The wheels and grill scream Honda. In a dark color, with silver rims, maybe better, but still. Altima coupe I hope.

Those wheels are Z wheels, aren't they?

xfrgtr · 07-20-2016, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by madeinjapan

Rendering from "TOPSPEED"
"Well, at TopSpeed, we’re tired of waiting, so we went ahead and rendered up what the next Z-car could look like"
2018 Nissan Z | car review @ Top Speed

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-20-2016, 07:52 PM

I think top speed got the potential rear window so wrong.... they made a maxima coupe. Not a Z. The front looks more believable.

MagmaRed370z · 07-20-2016, 08:00 PM

^ Render looks Ok at best. That corporate grill should definitely go away.

Z_ealot · 07-20-2016, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

The problem with your post is that you're talking about technology like it moves slowly for one. Second, you're talking like every company at some point doesn't break the innovation sound barrier with sub premium cars.

No one believed the new camaro would be everything it is for the price it is. I was LITERALLY the ONLY ONE.

MRC and 455HP on a 3,680lb car for $38,000 entry price and an upcoming 640HP, 3,900lb car with an even higher updated mrc line lick feature, launch control, a new ultra high tech 10 speed auto and one of the fastest cars around the nurburgring at ANY PRICE for $60K? That's $40K cheaper than the GTR with 95 more horses. Anything is possible my man. Anything.

Not to mention the fact that mazda, while being a significantly smaller company than nissan, managed to make the miata a hell of a lot lighter while upping it's horsepower and keeping it at the same price point as the previous generation

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COSMO · 07-20-2016, 08:04 PM

Please NOOO!!!!

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Originally Posted by xfrgtr

Rendering from "TOPSPEED"
"Well, at TopSpeed, we’re tired of waiting, so we went ahead and rendered up what the next Z-car could look like"
2018 Nissan Z | car review @ Top Speed

sunkist350z · 07-20-2016, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Wheels3309

Nope.

This is moving completely in the wrong direction IMO. That grill is sh!t and FPenvy hit it on the head sayin' it's kinda lookin' like the Civic!

If this is any indication, I'm worried...

Gross looks like Hyundai genesis coupe

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-20-2016, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot

Not to mention the fact that mazda, while being a significantly smaller company than nissan, managed to make the miata a hell of a lot lighter while upping it's horsepower and keeping it at the same price point as the previous generation

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I believe the previous gen miata was 158-167HP respectively. The current miata is 155HP. But the weight reduction was well over 200lbs with even more features, more safety and more luxury.

So you're right! If miata can do it for a mid $20K car. We can definitely do it.

God-Speed · 07-20-2016, 09:11 PM

Well if this is the direction that their going, looks like I will be looking at another Vette!!

edk370 · 07-20-2016, 10:30 PM

A lot of you are decrying an "upmarket" move. But you forget, that the Z32 TT was that upmarket move 26 years ago. The Z32 was Nissan's 3rd or 4th iteration of the Z car, and it was time to make that move. The Z was always meant to be a cheaper alternative to a Corvette. But the Z32 TT met that generation Corvette in terms of price, performance, yada yada...If anything, a car maker, a movie actor, etc. stays too long in some mold, then it becomes typecast as that mold forever; I know, this is getting philosophical.

Plus remember, the Skyline R32 GT-R wasn't legal for the U.S. then, so the Z32 TT was Nissan's halo car. Now that the GT-R R35 has been here, Nissan won't put as many of their eggs into the upcoming Z-basket. It's too intensive for carmakers to do this in terms of investment, time, energy. The GT-R is the direct competitor to the Corvette now, becuase it's obvious the C7 will smoke the Z.

...However, using that logic, the Z35 could be a direct competitor to the Camaro V8. The Camaro is a "cheaper alternative" to the Corvette akin to how the Z is to the GT-R. The Camaro V8 is a high performer, at least straight line, and perhaps Nissan will try to keep abreast of the Camaro V8 both literally and figuratively....I'm sure Nissan execs are aware that 300ish HP isn't a lot these days. 400 is the new benchmark

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-21-2016, 12:26 AM

People are forgetting there will be several configurations for each budget. A light nimble 4 banger turbo. Possibly the mid-range touring car with 300HP and the balls to the wall Nismo. N possibly an even beefier Nismo rs.

I was worried about jumping ship based on a Z not being built. I have all faith if the Z will have an upmarket price it will compete in the upmarket segment. Nissan won't risk another unsuccessful generation like the Z34. That's why all the models. I believe the 4 banger will actually rival our stats now with less power. I truly believe that. The 300HP will be a smidgen faster and the nismos will be insane.

I think they negativity is based more on fear of lack of affordability of the most desired Z.

NRTim · 07-21-2016, 01:16 AM

I remember reading one of FPenvy's thread last year about him going to a auto show, he said he spoke to one of the Infiniti reps that was there about the next gen Z. Needless to say the rep said the VR engine is too expensive for y'all Nissan owners which I thought was messed up lol

I can't seem to find that post but maybe FPenvy can chime in on what happened at that auto show

NRTim · 07-21-2016, 01:26 AM

And some of the members on here aren't "dreaming" when they want a lighter and faster Z, because I think they're going based on numerous articles in the past about Nissan head designer chief saying and I quote, "I want to keep the weight down and the speed up", take it for what you will but I think some of these speculations by the members are true

s2krazyyy · 07-21-2016, 05:46 AM

I don't think the Z will get lighter but if it does that would be great. They always shared the platform with the G37 and other vehicles which I think is the reason why its kind of on the heavy side. But I guess we could dream that Nissan will make a whole new chassis for the Z and it could be sub 3000lbs. Even if they are making something to that extent I don't see it coming out for a long time, like some have said in this thread R&D takes up a boat load of time. Then again I wouldn't mind if they discontinued the Z, when I had my S2K the fault on it was that it was never really updated throughout its MY production and that it was old compared to the new stuff out. Then when it went out of production and I just felt like everyone stopped picking at it and appreciated for what it was. I think that could be a similar scenario if they decide to axe the Z.

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-21-2016, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by s2krazyyy

I don't think the Z will get lighter but if it does that would be great. They always shared the platform with the G37 and other vehicles which I think is the reason why its kind of on the heavy side. But I guess we could dream that Nissan will make a whole new chassis for the Z and it could be sub 3000lbs. Even if they are making something to that extent I don't see it coming out for a long time, like some have said in this thread R&D takes up a boat load of time. Then again I wouldn't mind if they discontinued the Z, when I had my S2K the fault on it was that it was never really updated throughout its MY production and that it was old compared to the new stuff out. Then when it went out of production and I just felt like everyone stopped picking at it and appreciated for what it was. I think that could be a similar scenario if they decide to axe the Z.

I notice Z reviews have become much more positive. It was amazing how the mainstream media pummeled Z performance. I always thought the Z had the most character of all the cars in its class.
I believe the media was pushing power over the senses. And pushing people to believe you can't have both in one car. The Z did fit that bill. But if you go on past threads here.you'll see a bunch of consumer drones falling into that hype, selling their Z and buying a mustang and a lightweight sports car. One did it and 20 followed. But one of them. Came back to a Z and in a personal message to me admitted the mustang had a lot of power, was lifeless n had no soul.

Unfortunately, the truth is the media has too much influence on the American people. And thank God for independent enthusiasts and unbiased Z reviews. Now the unmediafied truth is coming out.

There's two types of enthusiasts. The one that's looking for the car that stirs their soul the most.

And the one that wants to out-perform and out everything their neighbors. Those are the ones that fuel America's economy. They are the true consumers.

07-20-2016, 07:52 PM	#2163 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	I think top speed got the potential rear window so wrong.... they made a maxima coupe. Not a Z. The front looks more believable. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

07-20-2016, 08:00 PM	#2164 (permalink)
MagmaRed370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: USA Posts: 1,468 Drives: 14' 370z Sport Magma Rep Power: 13	^ Render looks Ok at best. That corporate grill should definitely go away. UNKNOWN_370 and COSMO like this. __________________ Sold: 2014 Magnetic Black Base. Current: 2014 Magma Red 370z Sport \| ARK Grip Exhaust \| 25mm HR Spacers \| GTR Button \| DRL Mod

07-21-2016, 12:26 AM	#2171 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	People are forgetting there will be several configurations for each budget. A light nimble 4 banger turbo. Possibly the mid-range touring car with 300HP and the balls to the wall Nismo. N possibly an even beefier Nismo rs. I was worried about jumping ship based on a Z not being built. I have all faith if the Z will have an upmarket price it will compete in the upmarket segment. Nissan won't risk another unsuccessful generation like the Z34. That's why all the models. I believe the 4 banger will actually rival our stats now with less power. I truly believe that. The 300HP will be a smidgen faster and the nismos will be insane. I think they negativity is based more on fear of lack of affordability of the most desired Z. NISMO IX likes this. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

07-21-2016, 01:26 AM	#2173 (permalink)
NRTim Base Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Nowhere,TX Age: 38 Posts: 131 Drives: 2017 ??? Rep Power: 16	And some of the members on here aren't "dreaming" when they want a lighter and faster Z, because I think they're going based on numerous articles in the past about Nissan head designer chief saying and I quote, "I want to keep the weight down and the speed up", take it for what you will but I think some of these speculations by the members are true UNKNOWN_370 and RicerX like this.

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edk370 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: So Cal Posts: 296 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 13	A lot of you are decrying an "upmarket" move. But you forget, that the Z32 TT was that upmarket move 26 years ago. The Z32 was Nissan's 3rd or 4th iteration of the Z car, and it was time to make that move. The Z was always meant to be a cheaper alternative to a Corvette. But the Z32 TT met that generation Corvette in terms of price, performance, yada yada...If anything, a car maker, a movie actor, etc. stays too long in some mold, then it becomes typecast as that mold forever; I know, this is getting philosophical. Plus remember, the Skyline R32 GT-R wasn't legal for the U.S. then, so the Z32 TT was Nissan's halo car. Now that the GT-R R35 has been here, Nissan won't put as many of their eggs into the upcoming Z-basket. It's too intensive for carmakers to do this in terms of investment, time, energy. The GT-R is the direct competitor to the Corvette now, becuase it's obvious the C7 will smoke the Z. ...However, using that logic, the Z35 could be a direct competitor to the Camaro V8. The Camaro is a "cheaper alternative" to the Corvette akin to how the Z is to the GT-R. The Camaro V8 is a high performer, at least straight line, and perhaps Nissan will try to keep abreast of the Camaro V8 both literally and figuratively....I'm sure Nissan execs are aware that 300ish HP isn't a lot these days. 400 is the new benchmark

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NRTim Base Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Nowhere,TX Age: 38 Posts: 131 Drives: 2017 ??? Rep Power: 16	I remember reading one of FPenvy's thread last year about him going to a auto show, he said he spoke to one of the Infiniti reps that was there about the next gen Z. Needless to say the rep said the VR engine is too expensive for y'all Nissan owners which I thought was messed up lol I can't seem to find that post but maybe FPenvy can chime in on what happened at that auto show

07-21-2016, 05:46 AM	#2174 (permalink)
s2krazyyy Base Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: California Posts: 162 Drives: 2010 40th 370z Rep Power: 45	I don't think the Z will get lighter but if it does that would be great. They always shared the platform with the G37 and other vehicles which I think is the reason why its kind of on the heavy side. But I guess we could dream that Nissan will make a whole new chassis for the Z and it could be sub 3000lbs. Even if they are making something to that extent I don't see it coming out for a long time, like some have said in this thread R&D takes up a boat load of time. Then again I wouldn't mind if they discontinued the Z, when I had my S2K the fault on it was that it was never really updated throughout its MY production and that it was old compared to the new stuff out. Then when it went out of production and I just felt like everyone stopped picking at it and appreciated for what it was. I think that could be a similar scenario if they decide to axe the Z.