[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

Chuck33079 · 07-26-2016, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ped

Not really fair there since the Z is getting long in the tooth - of course it's sales numbers will lag compared to when it came out. Other manufacturers have had nearly a DECADE to one-up it!

Z34 sales were abysmal after the first year. It underperformed their targets from the beginning. The total number of Z34s sold was less than one year of 350 sales. They launched a good sports car right in the beginning of a recession and then the competition got much better.

Z_ealot · 07-26-2016, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Z34 sales were abysmal after the first year. It underperformed their targets from the beginning. The total number of Z34s sold was less than one year of 350 sales. They launched a good sports car right in the beginning of a recession and then the competition got much better.

Same thing happens to the miata after they release a new model if you've ever looked at their sales figures....first 2 years sell well and then drop off sharply thereafter

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Chuck33079 · 07-26-2016, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot

Same thing happens to the miata after they release a new model if you've ever looked at their sales figures....first 2 years sell well and then drop off sharply thereafter

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Yes, but even with a sharp dropoff, the Miata still moves a lot of units.

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-26-2016, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Z34 sales were abysmal after the first year. It underperformed their targets from the beginning. The total number of Z34s sold was less than one year of 350 sales. They launched a good sports car right in the beginning of a recession and then the competition got much better.

The second year wasn't too bad. They sold about 10,512.

ped · 07-26-2016, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Z34 sales were abysmal after the first year. It underperformed their targets from the beginning. The total number of Z34s sold was less than one year of 350 sales. They launched a good sports car right in the beginning of a recession and then the competition got much better.

Wow you're right - I don't even get that. I didn't even consider a Z until the 370Z came out, as the 350Z was butt-ugly IMO. So strange that a better-looking, faster and with upgrades all around sold worse than the 350Z.

mishuko · 07-26-2016, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Z34 sales were abysmal after the first year. It underperformed their targets from the beginning. The total number of Z34s sold was less than one year of 350 sales. They launched a good sports car right in the beginning of a recession and then the competition got much better.

yea it started to doo poorly in sales but it was launched right into a recession for the major target market.

not to mention by time the economy and middle class had more disposable income and the revival of the murican muscle cars with their huge improvements over the older generation... yea...

Montez · 07-26-2016, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

The honest truth is that we'll be lucky if they don't kill the Z outright. It was a sales disaster. Ghosn runs his company by the numbers, and if the Z is only selling 5k a year we won't have a Z for long. It's a hard sell for Nissan to spend a lot of money retooling for such a low volume seller.

I agree, it's reminding me of 95/96 with the Z32 but for slightly different reasons. Those cars did not sell that well due to the outrageous pricing for the time mainly, so the car took a hiatus for 7 years to give Nissan plenty of time to think of a new strategy to come up with a highly successful Z33 a better price point. The Z34 is not successful do to low sales, different economy and pretty much minor updates over it's production run that has made it stale in may peoples eyes, every other car has been updated and has much more technology on board. I can see another hiatus coming or it being dropped totally unfortunately, even though it's intended as a low production product it has not met it's predicted low number of sales.

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-26-2016, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Montez

I agree, it's reminding me of 95/96 with the Z32 but for slightly different reasons. Those cars did not sell that well due to the outrageous pricing for the time mainly, so the car took a hiatus for 7 years to give Nissan plenty of time to think of a new strategy to come up with a highly successful Z33 a better price point. The Z34 is not successful do to low sales, different economy and pretty much minor updates over it's production run that has made it stale in may peoples eyes, every other car has been updated and has much more technology on board. I can see another hiatus coming or it being dropped totally unfortunately, even though it's intended as a low production product it has not met it's predicted low number of sales.

Nissan didn't have the upcoming next generation modular chassis to be able to make multiple style cars with a Lego style chassis. There's a distinct possibility this will be the new chassis. Being modular means the likelihood of the Z being a global platform is high, keeping costs even lower Also the cost of computers are SEVERELY lower than the 90's. You can't really compare the two eras as the way production is managed is on a level of efficiency that makes the 90's ancient.

Besides, Nissan was pushing a brand new and up and coming brand called infiniti that was competing with two other up and coming brands, Acura & Lexus that was draining there pockets as well.on top of the yen situation....

So many perspectives to look from.

sunkist350z · 07-27-2016, 09:47 PM

Yesterday, I was reading the new August issue of Automobile magazine and the cover had a picture of z35. Does anyone have that issue that can scan the article?

Cover looks like this:

NRTim · 07-28-2016, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sunkist350z

Yesterday, I was reading the new August issue of Automobile magazine and the cover had a picture of z35. Does anyone have that issue that can scan the article?

Cover looks like this:

You guys are late to the party, look a few pages back, a member already posted the article from that magazine

Montez · 07-28-2016, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Nissan didn't have the upcoming next generation modular chassis to be able to make multiple style cars with a Lego style chassis. There's a distinct possibility this will be the new chassis. Being modular means the likelihood of the Z being a global platform is high, keeping costs even lower Also the cost of computers are SEVERELY lower than the 90's. You can't really compare the two eras as the way production is managed is on a level of efficiency that makes the 90's ancient.

Besides, Nissan was pushing a brand new and up and coming brand called infiniti that was competing with two other up and coming brands, Acura & Lexus that was draining there pockets as well.on top of the yen situation....

So many perspectives to look from.

At this point all we can do is hope and wish that it happens!

Desert Rat · 07-29-2016, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Montez

I agree, it's reminding me of 95/96 with the Z32 but for slightly different reasons. Those cars did not sell that well due to the outrageous pricing for the time mainly, so the car took a hiatus for 7 years to give Nissan plenty of time to think of a new strategy to come up with a highly successful Z33 a better price point. The Z34 is not successful do to low sales, different economy and pretty much minor updates over it's production run that has made it stale in may peoples eyes, every other car has been updated and has much more technology on board. I can see another hiatus coming or it being dropped totally unfortunately, even though it's intended as a low production product it has not met it's predicted low number of sales.

Difference between now and then is that back in 96 Nissan was in financial trouble...that was before the Renault rescue.

Z32 was a great car but got a reputation as being miserable to work on and as you stated, it was priced way too high. Same thing killed the Supra. Funny thing is though...those old Z32 TT cars can be had for sub $10k for a decent one now, and a high mileage same vintage supra is going for well north of $20k in the used market.

I'm torn on which of those cars I like better......

I just sold my 1985 Z31 last week. They sold more of those that year than the entire run thus far of Z34s.

wanderer1234 · 07-22-2016, 03:03 PM

Keep the S2K and sell the Nismo for a BRZ or keep the Nismo and sell the S2k for the BRZ?

Or keep both and forget about the BRZ?

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-22-2016, 06:15 PM

Check out my new thread in the other vehicles section. I think I found a clue to the Z being built on a new chassis. If Nissan makes a modular chassis? There goes everyone's negative theory about why is Nissan going to make an Lol new chassis for a low selling car???

Your possible answer is, the modular chassis will save Nissan money by building a family of cars off of one chassis??? No need for a FWD chassis like the D platform and then the RWD chassis on the FM platform. They will all be done on the same platform.

Next generation Juke built on modular chassis!!!

NRTim · 07-22-2016, 10:05 PM

New Toyota Supra may get a twin-turbo Lexus V6 - Autoblog

Lol if these rumors are true Nissan better step it up, cause we all know this next Supra isn't going to be cheap

07-22-2016, 06:15 PM	#14 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	Check out my new thread in the other vehicles section. I think I found a clue to the Z being built on a new chassis. If Nissan makes a modular chassis? There goes everyone's negative theory about why is Nissan going to make an Lol new chassis for a low selling car??? Your possible answer is, the modular chassis will save Nissan money by building a family of cars off of one chassis??? No need for a FWD chassis like the D platform and then the RWD chassis on the FM platform. They will all be done on the same platform. Next generation Juke built on modular chassis!!! __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980 Last edited by UNKNOWN_370; 07-22-2016 at 06:50 PM.

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