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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk So to bring you up to speed, the current Altima weighs around 3,450 lbs. That grip concept is a pipe dream. The Juke is a FWD

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Old 02-17-2016, 03:54 PM   #11 (permalink)
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So to bring you up to speed, the current Altima weighs around 3,450 lbs.
That grip concept is a pipe dream. The Juke is a FWD and AWD platform, not RWD. FWD weighs less because the drive wheels are right next to the engine. So I'm not being far fetched at all. You're quoting the 1.6L FWD Juke, not the AWD. the AWD weighs as much as a base Z.

The Z already starts at $30k for a stripper of a car. You're looking at $36, for a sport tech and touring models. Nismos and convertibles are the only overpriced models. I think everyone here would be happy paying Nismo money for 400hp. They won't like paying $60k unless the car starts eating vettes again, and that will require more than 400hp. And for the record, brand new Vettes weigh as much as the Z. You'd think they would try and drop the weight of those a lot more if they could? That's a $55,000 car.

Second piece you fail to realize is that to make a stiff structure, that adds weight. With new crash test requirements, clever engineering will need to be done to maintain similar chassis weight or even less.

You also fail to realize that bigger brakes weigh more, bigger wheels weigh more, a larger radiator, additional cooling, beefier clutch, transmission, thicker roll bars, the turbos, the strut bar (front and inverted rear), and all the little luxury features people are asking for.

I'm comfortable with the 3200 number. It definitely won't be 3,100lbs. The car is already using aluminum body panels, carbon driveshaft, forged wheels, aluminum suspension bits, undersized the radiator, crap oil cooler, and the wheelbase is only 100". There isn't a lot left to take off without spending a lot of money for magnesium and carbon.
Great post man, I highly doubt Nissan is going to spend all those production costs just to give some niche Z fans what they want..

It's a bad market spot for Nissan unless they get into Civic SI/Fiesta ST/GTI territory and release some sort of turbo hatch or IDX type little car. But they cancelled the IDX so i doubt even that happens. They are missing out bigtime, the Ford Focus RS is being sold above MSRP and selling like crazy demand. The GOLF R is sold at msrp or above at every dealer with high demand. Nissan could make sort of hot hatch right now and be competitive for enthusiasts but no.....I'm still hoping they are working on something though.
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