[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

FPenvy

if this is their reasoning then the 370 wouldnt exist either............nor the 350.

actually i know for a fact the 350 was dead. it was saved by enthusiasts.

just stop with the stupidity here.

none of us actually know for sure if there will be or wont be another Z.

however ,i hold onto hope that they make use of that new VR engine and keep the Z alive with some upgrades and new body.

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kay.zee

350z had way better sales than the 370z though. The g35/350z sold like hotcakes. The 370z/g37 not so much even with Infiniti practically begging people to lease the g37.

FPenvy

yes and its hard to believe because the 350 is not a pretty Z whatsoever.

amazing that they sold around 150k 350 and only 60k or so 370's so far. (us sales figures est. i found)

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kay.zee

I blame the new mustang and Camaro , I feel like most Americans are still racist against true Japanese looking cars like the Z. Some sort of Japanese bitterness.

FPenvy

the majority americans are idiots so it's understandable.

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Firebase99

Yea, its this all the way. Despite Ford and Chevy having street and track numbers to boast about (and they should-they are indeed superior platforms in terms of pure performance than any stock Z34) there is room for argument, the great majority of us on here, these pony cars arent for everyone. The relatively light weight, sharpness and power of a two seat coupe STILL has an appeal to me over the huge HP pony cars...its that simple.

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MagmaRed370z

The 350z was much cheaper to obtain than the 370z. I bought my 03 350Z Enthusiast Model at 27K back in the day (New). I bought both of my 370z at 37K. (New) Big difference.

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SS_Firehawk

My observations...

The Z platform can lose weight if it's not shared with an SUV.
Since we know it's a turbo V6, at least one model is guaranteed to make 400hp.
Nissan took a step in the right direction with Infiniti in removing the stupid steer by wire and put the hydrolic pump with electric assist back in.
There aren't any cars available in the market for under $100,000 that make 400 or more hp and weigh 3,000lbs.
Its easier to add power than reduce weight, its more cost effective, and it sells more. I'm fully expecting weight to sit around 3200lbs.
I'm betting that Nissan will rely on gearing, quick shifting transmissions, launch control, and trick suspension settings to keep pace with the big V8's. I don't think the goal is to beat them at their own game, but to be subjectively better at everything else.

Idk how many of you have driven the Mustangs and Camaro's with the performance packages, hell, even the Vettes. The steering feel, the accuracy, the turn in the car has over those vehicles is night and day. The car just feels better to drive. Ive been car shopping for the Wife and I always come back disappointed. You really need to get into a specialty vehicle to get anything remotely similar for under $70,000.

If the Cayman S is still the Z's target, and if they intend to match or beat that car from a numbers standpoint, I don't think we have anything to worry about.

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Dirk McGurck

Of course it is: add lightness.

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Dirk McGurck

The Mazda 6 is 3200lbs. A large sedan. Yes, our engine will weigh a little more, but not that much more.

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UNKNOWN_370

12,000 -15,000 sales is probably what they would need to keep it alive. Chassis wise at least. The engines are already there!!!

What do you think the Z is? It's not a sedan. It's not meant to sell for the masses. Just modest enough to keep a legacy going. 5,000 per engine per year should be good. Considering it's one v6 and two tunes. It's simple logic.

Put it like this, people like you were doubting me the camaro would be what it is today before there was a production model and just news. You can see my posts in the other vehicles section for the 2014 corvette. When we were having conversations of the mystery camaro.

I called it blow for blow...
As I have on a few cars...

How do I do this magical thing. By sorting out fact from Fiction and leaving out my own personal biases.

Just like I didn't forsee the mustang losing all that weight delving into irs for the first time. Everyone threw that svt cobra as a reason for them getting it. But they were facing a lot of new regulations along with irs. All the so called e,parts came at me sideways about my delusions.

I was told the Q60 would never get a 400HP turbo by the so called experts on this forum well over a year ago... Lol.
What the q60 has?

I'm wrong about a lot of things... But not these things.

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kay.zee

Well Hopefully you arent wrong and they are working on something and plan to release it soon. 2019 for a Gripz type car would be a disaster.

UNKNOWN_370

If they sold 60k units? You further validate my point about hitting the 75,000 unit mark before transitioning

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UNKNOWN_370

If you think the GRIP Z is an SUV? The grip Z weighs 2,500lbs.

If you consider the juke an SUV? It weighs 2,800lbs.

The juke is 500lbs lighter than a Z

The juke is 500lbs lighter than a Z

The juke was the first in a new generation of lightweight vehicles for the Z.

Do you guys know my 2008 altima 3.5 said on the stickers the door that it weighed 3100lbs? My old altima was 132lbs lighter than the 09 base/manual Z

The thinking behind weight in this thread is EXTREMELY limited.

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FPenvy

If you add I Canadian sales it's close.

I didn't look up jdm/euro figures.

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