[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

kay.zee

Ok I guess I'll join in on the fun, no point in debating in a car we all want to happen. I guess we can all just hope together in here until 2019/2020 haha.

Seriously though just give me a new Z that gets any sort of better gas mileage for the guys who buy the car who just want to commute to work without getting 12-15 mpg in the city with a heavy foot. The turbo 2.0 dct in the new Mercedes slc slk replacement would even be a decent.

brucelidat

420/370 for 29k OTD is not going to happen. That's basically saying I want a lot more for a lot less. What's more realistic is getting somewhat more for the same $$ or a lot more $$$. For a car to be 29k OTD would mean it would need to sell for around 26k. There is no way you're getting a 420/370 new car for 26k....

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Dirk McGurck

They're making stronger aluminum alloy these days, so a Z with the same makeup of aluminum as Z34, but thinner/lighter could come in a couple hundred lighter. Plus lighter interior parts.

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Firebase99

Well...maybe $30k TOPS? OTD. Base mustang with what, like 315hp can be had for $22K? They NEED to keep the price down. Imperative cuz this whole Z thing is going like the 300...again. They have the turbo engine already. All the stuff is there. $30K...OTD with 400hp/350tq base price? Better? Hmmm?

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brucelidat

The 400/350 version (it won't be higher than that because then it'll be higher than the more expensive q60) Will be at minimum mid-high 30s and that's being hopeful and assuming they let you get that engine without automatically adding certain other packages to get the cost up. This would put it a few grand more than the mustang Gt which I thik is the best case scenario. Unless they really get a lot out of other models sharing Z chassis and components, I can't seem them getting the price any closer to the gt than that. The Mustang is a high volume car and the Z is not and will never sell as many. It needs to be close to Mustang power, but with the allure of sexy 2 seater styling and a more engaging driving experience along with not being as common to make up the price difference. It will also be lighter.

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brucelidat

I think if it can have power close to the Mustang GT, weigh 300-400 lbs lighter, look sexy and be like 3k more than the stang, it will be fine.

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Firebase99

See, then it all depends on what comes as standard for say $35K (for me). Leather, NAV, Hands Free everything, to start. Leather will never happen, neither will NAV. So, youre saying, realistically mid 40's for the goodies I want because the packages will bring it up in price level, like every other damn car. If thats the case I may take another chance on the revamped Genesis brand post '17-'18. Just like now Ill get 95% performance of a Z, 200% tech and pseudo lux for many, many thousands less. This is exactly what got me OUT of a 370 into a Genesis. Damnit Nissan!!!

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UNKNOWN_370

If the camaro can make a 3400lb 4 seat, 335 HP 3400lb sport coupe with every option. Nissan can shave 500lbs and add 60HP. You act like they haven't followed this formula 3x before...

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Firebase99

I agree with a caveat. It ain't gonna be 2900lbs. Not with 332+hp. 3200 with 380/300?

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brucelidat

You say shave 500 lbs like it's easy...

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Magic Bus

I'm pretty sure the 400hp 3.0t engine will have better mileage than the current 3.7 with normal driving. Use a heavy foot, then you'll probably get the same mileage as now.

I am also fairly certain that if Nissan keeps their manufacturing plants the same, with the Z being made in Japan, the Mercedes like turbo 2.0 will most likely not make it into the Z.

Also, welcome to the fun side

njobe89

that's because the camaro was heavy as shyt to begin with, making it easier to shave off the weight off it. our car is not heavy, it's going to be a lot harder to shave off weight than if our car weigh 4,000lbs. if they start adding carbon fiber parts the price of the car will sky rocket. you can't keep "shaving off" weight and adding hp and expect the price to stay the same or go up a few thousand. hell i want a c7 z06 for 40k, but it's not happening.

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UNKNOWN_370

I'm looking at a 2500lb AWD CROSSOVER... LOL

If you say so? But I disagree.

Maybe 3200lbs on the Nismo due to body kit wider tires and body bracing? But I'm thinking more like 3100 for Nismo

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UNKNOWN_370

The Z was the lightest AFFORDABLE car with over 300HP in 2008.
Weight is important to Nissan and Mr.K called the Z34 a heavy car not conducive to his legacy. Mr. K passed away.
Nissan is not going to disrespect our cars father. That's why a 2500lb AWD chassis is the case study for the future.

I'm calling 2900 for the 4 banger
3000lb for the 6

Again... Our Z concept is a 2500lb AWD CROSSOVER!!!!

who makes 2500lb all wheel drive crossovers?

The Juke is a 2800lb Nissan crossover. That started at 22k in AWD 5 YEARS AGO!!!!
The juke, which most passed off as some hokey car with a CVT is a technological marvel if we can get past third grade "I don't like the looks opinions. It launched to 60 in 7.2 seconds with .91g of lat acc and came out in 2011.

The Z came from the FM platform from 2002. The grip Z is a RWD lightened version of the juke with Z performance.

I'm expecting a lot of spec similarities from the grip Z in the new Z. I believe the Z is taking long because of the cost of transition from the FM platform to this new ultra light platform. So Nissan is trying to make what they thought they'd originally sell in volume on our platform. They expected 15,000 units over 6 years for a total of 75,000 units. I believe once Nissan gets as close as they can to that number, the new Z will be introduced.


I don't think the grip is the next Z in itself. But as stated it's the case study for a line up of ultra light Nissan sports cars and crossovers.

Nissan has always been an innovator and leader in technology and chassis rigidity.

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kay.zee

You said the Z is a niche car, why would they make another car Z car to have the same niche mediocre sales?