[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck

Let's just agree to disagree to agree that if you have 4 working appendages you should try to use them all.

Originally Posted by F.I. Inc.

Yes, they are Tony approved! Frank, when I get around to it, I may put your pipes into production. We will call them, "The FP" option.
-Tony

Originally Posted by FPenvy

obviously you don't have the ammo to go to battle if that's your way out.

i'll take that as a win

Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck

My main point of taking issue with what he said is that he's asserting the manuals should go away entirely for any interesting car. That's ********. Allow us dinosaurs to keep buying the cars we want: keep offering the manual.

But, yes, I'll concede you won an internet fight. I'm sure you can print this post out and have your mom hang it on the refrigerator door.

Now, back to the speculation on a car that's apparently delayed yet another year.

Originally Posted by F.I. Inc.

Yes, they are Tony approved! Frank, when I get around to it, I may put your pipes into production. We will call them, "The FP" option.
-Tony

Originally Posted by FPenvy

the manual is going to disappear. it's already gone from the exotic/super car market and for good reason.

she puts all my internet wins up so why wouldn't i add this one to the collection

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Yup,because of the power level. Even Porsche only puts manuals in their lower performance street options and the Cayman GT4. BUT even in the case of the GT4 all the low gears are super tall for safety reasons.

Originally Posted by TerribleONE

That's why the gears are tall? For safety?

So what about the M4 or new vettes etc?

I think its because they don't want that care stealing sales from the 911.

Originally Posted by TerribleONE

That's why the gears are tall? For safety?

So what about the M4 or new vettes etc?

I think its because they don't want that care stealing sales from the 911.

Originally Posted by F.I. Inc.

Yes, they are Tony approved! Frank, when I get around to it, I may put your pipes into production. We will call them, "The FP" option.
-Tony

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Your debate is NOT reflective of my statement. What I was trying to say that high horsepower cars shouldn't be manual because of the power level. It's a lot of power in these newer modern cars. I feel that if going a quarter mile in 11.98 seconds and you're driving on the street... It's not the safest thing in the world to have that much power on a manual transmission for daily use...
Example: I wouldn't buy a manual Z06. But I'd get a manual camaro v6. In the case of the Z06. It's the intelligent street drivers choice to buy an automatic.

Trust me shifting gears isn't your first priority when dealing with that much power at the limit. There's a lot going on without you having to play with a stick. The more engaging argument is moot at this power level when compared to road safety...
If stick was the sports car transmission of choice?
It would be in formula one cars.

All being said... Telling me you hate me over an opinion is extremely childish. It's amazing how serious this debate got over personal opinion and observation.

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Yup,because of the power level. Even Porsche only puts manuals in their lower performance street options and the Cayman GT4. BUT even in the case of the GT4 all the low gears are super tall for safety reasons.

Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck

That must be the reason Ford only puts manuals in their performance cars, with the only exception being the newest Ford GT which is a supercar.

If you can't handle shifting gears and power, you can't handle a powerful car at all.



The 911 has a manual, including in the top level trim.

Originally Posted by F.I. Inc.

Yes, they are Tony approved! Frank, when I get around to it, I may put your pipes into production. We will call them, "The FP" option.
-Tony

Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck

That must be the reason Ford only puts manuals in their performance cars, with the only exception being the newest Ford GT which is a supercar.

If you can't handle shifting gears and power, you can't handle a powerful car at all.



The 911 has a manual, including in the top level trim.

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

The GT3
GT3RS
911 TURBO & TURBO S... DO NOT HAVE MANUALS!!!!